***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

https://www.kmbc.com/article/kansas-...-may/32164661#

Kansas City's stay-at-home order extended to mid-May

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Alcohol can easily be avoided . I haven't had alcohol in months and that was 1 beer. In September at Oktoberfest in Munich alcohol is somewhat harder to resist , trust me I know.

Sugar, specifically from refined carbohydrates that is the most unhealthy can be easily avoided as well.

[Monticore]

Ethanol, because of its origin from fermented sugars, is known to contain sugars in a more refined form. All alcohol or alcoholic beverages stem from ethanol as an active agent. Hence, all alcohol has sugar.

copy and pasted from somebody smarter than me.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Sugar, specifically from refined carbohydrates that is the most unhealthy can be easily avoided as well.

the sugar in alcohol is classified as refined.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Actually sugar has just as much of a negative impact on your immune system.

Just about eight tablespoons of sugar can reduce the ability of white blood cells to kill germs.

Poor diet mostly due to excess sugar consumption causes more deaths globally now than alcohol and tobacco combined.

8 tablespoons?! Well duh, that’s a shit ton!

Your body has use for sugars in moderation. Your body has NO need for alcohol, even in moderation. Again, they aren’t metabolized the same by the body.

And this is from someone who drinks in moderation.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Monticore

you do realise alcohol has sugars right?

Yes but there is a difference in the quantity of sugar in a glass of red wine for example than in products with refined carbohydrates such as cupcakes/cookies.

Also certain alcohol products such as red wine have health benefits... including boosting your immune system.

There are no health benefits with eating highly processed sugary foods.

[BryanBusby]

No college football until class resumes as normal. Doubtful that happens by fall.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Yes but there is a difference in the quantity of sugar in a glass of red wine for example than in products with refined carbohydrates such as cupcakes/cookies.

Also certain alcohol products such as red wine have health benefits... including boosting your immune system.

There are no health benefits with eating highly processed sugary foods.

The jury is still out on health benefits of any alcohol , last I heard there was none. well I heard darker beers can help with breast milk production not sure if that is still true.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

All while not buying into the social distancing bullshit.

What's bullshit about it?

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Yes but there is a difference in the quantity of sugar in a glass of red wine for example than in products with refined carbohydrates such as cupcakes/cookies.

Also certain alcohol products such as red wine have health benefits... including boosting your immune system.

There are no health benefits with eating highly processed sugary foods.

Hey let’s make these equal. Give me my 8+ glasses of wine to get my 8 tablespoons of sugar!!!! I bet that’s better than ingesting 3 full sugar Cokes all at once!

[KCUnited]

I see Fonzie stuck the landing and is circling around for another jump!

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by lewdog

8 tablespoons?! Well duh, that’s a shit ton!

Your body has use for sugars in moderation. Your body has NO need for alcohol, even in moderation. Again, they aren’t metabolized the same by the body.

8 tablespoons of sugar is the equivalent of a can of Coke or Pepsi.

The sugar from processed/refined carbohydrates such as white bread provide zero nutritional value/benefit to your body.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Hey let’s make these equal. Give me my 8+ glasses of wine to get my 8 tablespoons of sugar!!!! I bet that’s better than ingesting 3 full sugar Cokes all at once!

be careful with drinking water lewdog you can overdose on water.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Monticore

The jury is still out on health benefits of any alcohol , last I heard there was none.

One of our posters here, DanT, was part of a large publication in Lancet a few years back about the health benefits of alcohol. Save for a small segment of the population, there are none.

Alcohol use is a leading risk factor for disease burden worldwide, accounting for nearly 10% of global deaths among populations aged 15–49 years, and poses dire ramifications for future population health in the absence of policy action today. The widely held view of the health benefits of alcohol needs revising, particularly as improved methods and analyses continue to show how much alcohol use contributes to global death and disability. Our results show that the safest level of drinking is none. This level is in conflict with most health guidelines, which espouse health benefits associated with consuming up to two drinks per day. Alcohol use contributes to health loss from many causes and exacts its toll across the lifespan, particularly among men. Policies that focus on reducing population-level consumption will be most effective in reducing the health loss from alcohol use.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Monticore

The jury is still out on health benefits of any alcohol , last I heard there was none. well I heard darker beers can help with breast milk production not sure if that is still true.

You might want to research red wine and an antioxidant it contains called resveratrol... which can help with high blood pressure/inflammation.