Call Your Shot: Who’s the Chiefs first selection in the 2020 Draft

[staylor26]

I’m going with Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU

[VAGOMO 4 LIFE!]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Fenton was a 6th.

Remember when CP bitched about who tf is Fenton and everyone called him a scrub before the season even started. Now he’s our starting slot CB and did really good last year

[Mecca]

Here is something interesting, there is some speculation that Javon Kinlaw is going to fall like a rock on draft day.

Apparently some teams have limited medicals that say he has bad knees and a bad hip and they question how long his career will be. With how tough medicals are this year and how things go someone will have to have some faith to take him...means he could very easily fall as some GM's won't be willing to do that.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Yea that’s the only reason he falls that far, because teams reportedly love him otherwise.

Since there’s no rush for us anyways, I’m taking him in the 3rd for sure.

I think like Mecole, he was a victim of QB play and being in a run first offense. Unlike Mecole, he’s a polished flute runner that would compliment him and Tyreek well in 2021 and beyond.

Well, he's not a physical WR and he's slim, which at age 24 indicates his body is maxed out.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

Remember when CP bitched about who tf is Fenton and everyone called him a scrub before the season even started. Now he’s our starting slot CB and did really good last year

Tyrann Mathieu is your starting slot CB...

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

Remember when CP bitched about who tf is Fenton and everyone called him a scrub before the season even started. Now he’s our starting slot CB and did really good last year

I remember Chiefs fans and CP bitching about the Chiefs drafts for 20+ years, regardless of who was chosen.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

So who sits?
Ward? Breeland? Will a rookie beat out Mathieu/Fenton manning the slot?

Remember Veach got Fenton in the 5th, and Ward was a diamond in the rough. Outside of Okudah and Henderson, I see a large group of corners that all have specific flaws and won’t have a ton of differentiated talent between rounds two down to the early fourth round.

My gut tells me that if Patrick Queen or Kenneth Murray are available at #32, they will be the pick. But that is a big “if”. I cite the fact that it was well known that last year, the Chiefs were really high on Devin Bush but could not find a way to move up to acquire him.
That is when I think Veach has to decide between a feature running back in the mold of JK Dobbins, or he goes with one of the versatile safety picks that are elite in McKinney or Delpit. The only other possible wrench in the draft plan is if a significant talent drops at defensive end (Epenesa, Gross-Matos) or offensive tackle (Jones, Becton).

I fully think that Kenneth Murray is a Dallas Cowboy.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Here is something interesting, there is some speculation that Javon Kinlaw is going to fall like a rock on draft day.

Apparently some teams have limited medicals that say he has bad knees and a bad hip and they question how long his career will be. With how tough medicals are this year and how things go someone will have to have some faith to take him...means he could very easily fall as some GM's won't be willing to do that.

I would be allover that shit, but I think that's I sure hope he drops to our slot talk.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

So who sits?
Ward? Breeland? Will a rookie beat out Mathieu/Fenton manning the slot?

Remember Veach got Fenton in the 5th, and Ward was a diamond in the rough. Outside of Okudah and Henderson, I see a large group of corners that all have specific flaws and won’t have a ton of differentiated talent between rounds two down to the early fourth round.

My gut tells me that if Patrick Queen or Kenneth Murray are available at #32, they will be the pick. But that is a big “if”. I cite the fact that it was well known that last year, the Chiefs were really high on Devin Bush but could not find a way to move up to acquire him.
That is when I think Veach has to decide between a feature running back in the mold of JK Dobbins, or he goes with one of the versatile safety picks that are elite in McKinney or Delpit. The only other possible wrench in the draft plan is if a significant talent drops at defensive end (Epenesa, Gross-Matos) or offensive tackle (Jones, Becton).

I’m talking about a guy that can start if there’s an injury like Claiborne last year.

Then start in 2021.

I agree that I’m taking Queen or Murray at 32 if they’re there. That’s not even a question.

I’m just talking about Brown and Hamilton not keeping us from drafting a CB at 32.

[VAGOMO 4 LIFE!]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Tyrann Mathieu is your starting slot CB...

Hes our starting SS.... hell with the amount of snaps Sorensen played last year he’s technically a starter as well

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I fully think that Kenneth Murray is a Dallas Cowboy.

Murray, Smith and Vander Esch? Christ. That’s overkill.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Murray, Smith and Vander Esch? Christ. That’s overkill.

They don't do a lot of smart things....

Cowboys I have basically as it's either Kenneth Murray or secondary and the CB's are likely to not be what they want and they probably think they can go safety in the second.

[VAGOMO 4 LIFE!]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I fully think that Kenneth Murray is a Dallas Cowboy.

CBS did a mock draft and they have Murray and Queen both landing in the second round. They had the Cowboys taking Fulton because they need a CB

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Fenton was a 6th.

Fenton remains just the damndest thing.

Like...he SUCKED in camp. Never heard anything positive. And was awful in pre-season.

What the hell kind of Grays Sports Almanac shit does Veach have tucked away somewhere that told him "this guy was unheralded and terrible every time he was on the field during the pre-season...but you should totally hold onto him anyway because he's going to make important plays late in the year..."?

That's one of those things that makes me wonder if some front office folks don't have a better feel for actual coachability than others. So much of the rest of it is available on tape or can be crunched in numbers. The paradox of skill has taken over in the NFL draft so a lot of this stuff comes down to luck anymore.

But in the margins, some guys may simply have a better handle on how well certain prospects adapt to coaching. Or maybe it's the coaching staff that saw it.

But the Fenton thing will always be something that just makes no damn sense to me. Because you could put Charvarius Ward opposite Tremon Smith in the Seahawks game, see Ward get beat up and still walk away going "okay, there's something there with Ward but Smith sucks..." It's not like you have to see great play to recognize potential and sometimes degrees of suck are demonstrative in their own right.

But...when the hell did Fenton demonstrate that potential?

That's why they get paid the big bucks, I s'pose...

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Fenton was a 6th.

**** I’m slipping.

Even better to prove my point though.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

CBS did a mock draft and they have Murray and Queen both landing in the second round. They had the Cowboys taking Fulton because they need a CB

Don't see them pulling that, after Okudah and Henderson there is a sizable drop in talent at CB, Murray is highly thought of, high character and Sean Lee is on his last legs.