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Old 04-15-2020, 06:16 PM  
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Call Your Shot: Who’s the Chiefs first selection in the 2020 Draft

I’m going with Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU
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Old 04-16-2020, 07:32 PM   #391
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I'd disagree. Would be absolutely stunned if we go WR with our first or second rounder. We likely start the year Vegas odds on favorite to win the Super Bowl. I dont think you burn a first or second rounder with the future in mind when you already have the best receiving corps in the league. Now if you want to draft a developmental receiver late in the draft so be it. Plenty of draft picks out there that can impact this years roster as well as the future.
Future? The Chiefs are an injury away from starting Robinson, who's been anything but reliable over the years.

I would absolutely ****ing hate it if the Chiefs don't come away with at least one talented receiver in this draft. It would be a waste of resources, especially considering Robinson and Watkins are free agents in 2021 and very unlikely to return.
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Old 04-16-2020, 07:34 PM   #392
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Fair enough. That was absolutely bullshit.
According to an article on Chiefs.com dated in the summer of 2015, the Chiefs have been 25th in Comp Picks since the process began in 1994.

I haven't taken the time to add up the number of Comp Picks the Chiefs have received since then but if memory serves, it's less than 4.
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Old 04-16-2020, 07:45 PM   #393
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Future? The Chiefs are an injury away from starting Robinson, who's been anything but reliable over the years.

I would absolutely ****ing hate it if the Chiefs don't come away with at least one talented receiver in this draft. It would be a waste of resources, especially considering Robinson and Watkins are free agents in 2021 and very unlikely to return.
Are you serious right now? Sammy fricken Watkins is our third receiving threat. We spent a second rounder last year to groom on Hardman who runs a 4.3. We arguably have two #1 WRs and the best receiving tight end in the league by far. If you're concerned about where were at with an injury to wide receiver how do you feel about RB, LB, corner or offensive line?

Yep Watkins and Robinson are free agents in 2021. We still have Hill and Hardman under contract however. Go take a look at our situation at running back and corner in 2021. Cupboard is 100% bare. If I was a betting man we will go RB, Corner or Corner, RB with our first two picks.
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Old 04-16-2020, 07:51 PM   #394
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Are you serious right now? Sammy fricken Watkins is our third receiving threat.
Yes, I'm serious and no, he is not their 3rd WR.

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We spent a second rounder last year to groom. We arguably have two #1 WRs and the best receiving tight end in the league by far.


Watkins had 673 yards and 3 TD's in the regular season last year, with all three TD's and 198 of those yards coming in Game 1 against Jacksonville. He's always injured and hasn't played a full 16 game season since his rookie year in 2014.

The Chiefs most definitely need to add a WR in the draft.

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If you're concerned about where were at with a an injury to wide receiver how do you feel about RB, LB, corner or offensive line?
Running back is the #1 offensive priority. The Chiefs current running back room is thin and no one in their right mind should count on 28 year old Damien Williams, who has 1,200 yards rushing and 12 TD's in SIX NFL Seasons.

It's a disaster waiting to happen, which is why I expect the Chiefs to draft a feature back early next week.

Corner is fine - three starters return from last year, Andy never seems to have a problem finding and grooming capable offensive lineman and while the LB corp could use a Sideline-To-Sideline player, the returning guys were good enough to win a Super Bowl last year.
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Old 04-16-2020, 07:59 PM   #395
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Yes, I'm serious and no, he is not their 3rd WR.





Watkins had 673 yards and 3 TD's in the regular season last year, with all three TD's and 198 of those yards coming in Game 1 against Jacksonville. He's always injured and hasn't played a full 16 game season since his rookie year in 2014.

The Chiefs most definitely need to add a WR in the draft.



Running back is the #1 offensive priority. The Chiefs current running back room is thin and no one in their right mind should count on 28 year old Damien Williams, who has 1,200 yards rushing and 12 TD's in SIX NFL Seasons.

It's a disaster waiting to happen, which is why I expect the Chiefs to draft a feature back early next week.

Corner is fine - three starters return from last year, Andy never seems to have a problem finding and grooming capable offensive lineman and while the LB corp could use a Sideline-To-Sideline player, the returning guys were good enough to win a Super Bowl last year.
Yes, Watkins is indeed our third receiving THREAT behind Hill and Kelce. He's a former #4 overall pick and comes up enormous in the biggest games. 100% of the teams in the league would take him as their third threat next year and be thrilled. Listen, I'm all for keeping the offensive weapons stocked and loaded and keeping this train rolling but to say WR is a need NEXT year I cant get on board with. It is a joke around the league how stacked we are at the position. I'd prefer we address RB this year and WR the following.
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Yes, Watkins is indeed our third receiving THREAT behind Hill and Kelce. He's a former #4 overall pick and comes up enormous in the biggest games. 100% of the teams in the league would take him as their third threat next year. Listen, I'm all for keeping the offensive weapons stocked and loaded and keeping this train rolling but to say WR is a need NEXT year I cant get on board with. It is a joke around the league how stacked we are at the position.
It's not a joke. Your takes are absolutely horrific and way off base.

Without true receiving threats on the field, it's easier to take away Hill and Kelce. The Chiefs have been far more successful when they have their full compliment of wide receivers and running backs, but that was very rare during the 2019 regular season.

They can't afford to pass up quality offensive weapons in this draft, especially when teams like the Ravens are improving as well.
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Old 04-16-2020, 08:28 PM   #397
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It's not a joke. Your takes are absolutely horrific and way off base.

Without true receiving threats on the field, it's easier to take away Hill and Kelce. The Chiefs have been far more successful when they have their full compliment of wide receivers and running backs, but that was very rare during the 2019 regular season.

They can't afford to pass up quality offensive weapons in this draft, especially when teams like the Ravens are improving as well.
Without true receiving threats??? Laughing my ass off. Buddy, we have the best receiving group in the league headed into next year and there isnt even a close second.
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Old 04-17-2020, 07:19 AM   #398
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Nope, i don't like it over Edward Helaire.

To say he can't make something out of nothing was an overstatement, i meant to say "in comparison to these other backs"

I get it, he's got his fans. He's not a bad player. He's been hyped for years. I just think Helaire and Taylor will be better NFL backs.
And I'm going to say I wouldn't touch Taylor because of how big his workload has been and the general history of how Wisconsin RB's fair in the NFL after having that type of workload.
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I’m convinced RB will be one of the first 2 picks. Matt Miller and other draft guys started this talk, but now Terez has that as our first need and mentioned it in his column.
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He just moved up my list. I’d be very happy with him.
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Hopefully, they will still be able to get one of the best players at a position.

I don’t think they are going to go with the 5th best WR, 3rd best LB, or the 3rd best CB if their top #1 rated G/C, RB or even S is sitting there. It just depends how the draft goes and who falls I guess.

Pretty exciting to think a top rated player falling to the very end of each round though

If we come out of the draft filling in the few holes, the chiefs will seriously be unstoppable
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I’m convinced RB will be one of the first 2 picks. Matt Miller and other draft guys started this talk, but now Terez has that as our first need and mentioned it in his column.

Don’t use a first round pick on a RB.

I’d draft this guy in the 2nd round:

Clyde Edwards-Helaire's use in the passing game is what distinguishes him as the best back for the Chiefs, and it's what drives his fit-value when paired with the Chiefs.

The LSU product is the highest-rated pass-catching back, as measured by route diversity, precision and yards after the catch adjusted for route type (in 2019). On the ground, Edwards-Helaire's ability to avoid run-stopping contact (as measured by positive yards earned after hip direction changed when a defender was within 3 feet) ranked second-best in 2019 among RBs in this class.

Chiefs running backs were not a source or threat of big plays last season, adding Edwards-Helaire would allow the Chiefs offense to be more multiple and would drive overall efficiency.
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Without true receiving threats??? Laughing my ass off. Buddy, we have the best receiving group in the league headed into next year and there isnt even a close second.

He’s not looking at just next year.

It takes most receivers a while to learn this offense and work into it. Two of the Chiefs top 4 receivers are FA after this year and unlikely to return. Their #5 is a JAG.

The 2021 WR draft isn’t going to be nearly as deep or as good.

So in this draft, the Chiefs could plan for letting Watkins and Robinson walk next year and having a third option ready to slide into place, while also taking advantage of the depth at that position and getting a better player than will likely be available to them next year.

The WRs available with the Chiefs’ second pick might not even make it to their first draft position next year (which is going to be 32 again).
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