***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

All 4,800,000 are under 45?

Either way, I think you missed the point.

~4,800,000 of NYC residents are under the age of 45.

But let me just go ahead and get the obvious retort out of the way:


DUNNING KRUGER

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Just shut the **** up with your horseshit.

I have no idea why you're allowed to continue with this nonsense.

Take your political take else where, no one gives a shit about your opinion on it.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Prednisone is some magical stuff, but a guy doesn't want to take it very often. Glad you are feeling better!

God, I hate prednisone. I know that it works becauset I needed to take it for some weird allergy in the 90's in which my body broke out in full hives for no apparent reason, even after multiple tests which failed to determine the cause.

But man, it just messed my body up for about a year.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Thanks for asking, man. It's been a weird week. My body overall is basically back to 100%

My lungs however, have remained pretty ****ed until today. Was still getting really winded and short of breath doing basic tasks like showering, walking to mailbox, etc. It was a struggle to even hold a conversation for more than a minute or two. Felt like my lungs were already like 80% full and couldn't take anymore air.

Doc started me on some breathing exercises, a new steroid pack and albuterol inhaler mid-week and today's been a huge difference. My lungs still feel "full" but not like before. Able to do more without getting as winded, so that's good.

Glad to hear. Sorry if you already mentioned, but do you have asthma?

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Donger

No, I don't want it that way. I presume you know who Dr. Robin Armstrong is?

irrelevant to the facts surrounding the circumstances and outcome at a retirement home agreed? take your political take elsewhere.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Nah it's not you wanna make it that way 39 people that were over the age of 65 got COVID-19. They were treated with the drug and NONE HAVE DIED.

There is nothing Political about that

The majority of your posts are about this ****ing drug. Enough already, talk about it with the other mouthbreathers in DC.

PLEASE.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

~4,800,000 of NYC residents are under the age of 45.

But let me just go ahead and get the obvious retort out of the way:


DUNNING KRUGER

All righty then...but we still have people running around acting like if you're under 60 you have nothing to worry about.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Take your political take else where, no one gives a shit about your opinion on it.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

All righty then...but we still have people running around acting like if you're under 60 you have nothing to worry about.

Not nothing, just very, very, very little.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

The majority of your posts are about this ****ing drug. Enough already, talk about it with the other mouthbreathers in DC.

PLEASE.

I think the guy wants to be banned and use it as a "badge of honor" in that other forum.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

irrelevant to the facts surrounding the circumstances and outcome at a retirement home agreed? take your political take elsewhere.

Good, then you know what he is. You brought politics here, not me.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by wazu

Glad to hear. Sorry if you already mentioned, but do you have asthma?

I do not.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

I'd say over, except I'm not sure why it hasn't happened yet.

It's death by a million paper cuts.... people who have to point out if something is political (and many times are wrong, or it's so subtle that it doesn't really matter), those who inadvertently post something that could be taken in a political light (such as a non-political statement from a politician, then see the first group of people), people who are obsessed with politics but their comments are so thinly-veiled it's more eye-roll inducing than anything (then see the first group of people again).

I really think it's the discussion about those groups of people that are killing the thread far more than the actual posts... I've seen very few blatantly political posts this week, and even then only a couple discussions that were DC-like.

It's the theory of "if everyone would ignore BlackBob, he'd just go away", because the alternative is to kick out at least a couple of the most active people in this thread...... not that I'm against Daface's idea, though.

Glad you're finally well on the road to recovery.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/he...a-c4a5ffad3ffb

#hydroxychloriquine

Nursing home got the Covid in Texas, Dr on site got them all on the drug. out of 39 people who have taken it (all 65+) no ones died.

Just saying...

An anecdotal account with some political stuff. Not a real trial.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

~4,800,000 of NYC residents are under the age of 45.

But let me just go ahead and get the obvious retort out of the way:


DUNNING KRUGER

It's not 347 out of the total population that age, it's 347 out of the total population that age infected with COVID, and you know it.

I'd be interested to know how many people that age died of flu on average each season.