***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

43 people got COVID in a retirement home, 39 of them were placed on hydroxychlorquine, since then none have died and the majority has fully recovered.

Considering what we have seen in other retirement communities, this would look promising right?

It was 56, not 43.

What was the dosage and frequency?
What underlying comorbidities did the group have?
How severe was their illness?
What other treatments were offered?
What happened to the other 17 patients?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Monticore

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I saw some here last year for the first time in my life I think they are defecting. I think the nest is near cottage eggs any good?

We have quite a few around here.

I’m not sure about Canadian laws but I wouldn’t **** with their eggs or nests in the us. We lost a nest after a storm and the conservation dept closed the area off and removed all signs of it

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Systemic corticosteroids have a lot of side effects, especially if taken for more than one week.

Adrenal suppression, agitation, insomnia, increased hunger, increased blood sugar, immune suppression, among others.

I felt great and had enough energy to clean my house 12 hrs a day lol, thankfully I wasn't on them very long because I could not sleep.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It was 56, not 43.

What was the dosage and frequency?
What underlying comorbidities did the group have?
How severe was their illness?
What other treatments were offered?
What happened to the other 17 patients?

Great questions answer them and get back to me.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Systemic corticosteroids have a lot of side effects, especially if taken for more than one week.

Adrenal suppression, agitation, insomnia, increased hunger, increased blood sugar, immune suppression, among others.

I knew about 4 of them, but not the others, thanks.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Really, how so? When I have taken it, it has worked great, with no long term after effects. When I have taken it, it has been for a wicked case of bronchitis.

I had to take it for 8 months straight and on Christmas Eve 1992, ended up in the hospital in which they pumped Benedryl and Prednisone directly into my veins because my body was covered in hives and I could barely move.

Once it went away (which happened a few months after I moved to Los Angeles - go figure!), I just didn't feel like myself. I felt weak and dizzy and lost a lot of muscle mass.

It took a few years to get back to normal, so I've avoided it since.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

It's death by a million paper cuts.... people who have to point out if something is political (and many times are wrong, or it's so subtle that it doesn't really matter), those who inadvertently post something that could be taken in a political light (such as a non-political statement from a politician, then see the first group of people), people who are obsessed with politics but their comments are so thinly-veiled it's more eye-roll inducing than anything (then see the first group of people again).

I really think it's the discussion about those groups of people that are killing the thread far more than the actual posts... I've seen very few blatantly political posts this week, and even then only a couple discussions that were DC-like.

It's the theory of "if everyone would ignore BlackBob, he'd just go away", because the alternative is to kick out at least a couple of the most active people in this thread...... not that I'm against Daface's idea, though.

Glad you're finally well on the road to recovery.

This thread is more suited towards reading instead of posting.

Better to listen to everyone else speak before even attempting to form an opinion. It's an opportunity to be educated.

The problem really isn't so much the people, rather that politics in general has infiltrated to much of our daily lives and is ever increasingly present. JMO

Separating the two shouldn't be hard, yet here we are.

And dittos for OTWP

[TLO]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's not 347 out of the total population that age, it's 347 out of the total population that age infected with COVID, and you know it.

I'd be interested to know how many people that age died of flu on average each season.

I'd like to know how many people were infected in that age range too.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I felt great and had enough energy to clean my house 12 hrs a day lol, thankfully I wasn't on them very long because I could not sleep.

I have to take dexamethasone for four days after each chemo infusion. I'm ravenous and my sleep is awful. I hate taking it.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, the Chevron down the street from me is at $3.39 a gallon

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Yeah you guys get horsed on gas prices over there.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Systemic corticosteroids have a lot of side effects, especially if taken for more than one week.

Adrenal suppression, agitation, insomnia, increased hunger, increased blood sugar, immune suppression, among others.

Yeah, the agitation thing really hit me hard. I'd get dizzy and really agitated, so much so that I'd need to go outside in the 20 degree weather, without a coat or jacket, to try to walk it off.

I know that it can be a miracle drug for some but wow, the side effects were brutal.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Donger

That's inherently political, and you know it.

Only because you want it to be, and you know it.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I had to take it for 8 months straight and on Christmas Eve 1992, ended up in the hospital in which they pumped Benedryl and Prednisone directly into my veins because my body was covered in hives and I could barely move.

Once it went away (which happened a few months after I moved to Los Angeles - go figure!), I just didn't feel like myself. I felt weak and dizzy and lost a lot of muscle mass.

It took a few years to get back to normal, so I've avoided it since.

Did they wean you off slowly?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Yeah you guys get horsed on gas prices over there.

Yeah, we'll never see low gas prices but in all seriousness, $3.39 is much better than it was just a few weeks ago when it was $4.79.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Yeah you guys get horsed on gas prices over there.

$1.50 here