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Old 04-20-2020, 12:02 PM   #1
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You want to trade to like pick 5?
Everyone said that LB Derrick Johnson wouldn't drop to us at 15th either.

Queen or Murray as well.
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Old 04-20-2020, 12:06 PM   #2
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Everyone said that LB Derrick Johnson wouldn't drop to us at 15th either.

Queen or Murray as well.
You can sell me on the other guys dropping, Simmons is an elite athlete, Derrick Johnson didn't have what he has.
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Old 04-20-2020, 12:08 PM   #3
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You can sell me on the other guys dropping, Simmons is an elite athlete, Derrick Johnson didn't have what he has.
Some people think that Simmons might fall because he doesn't really have a position in the NFL. Myles Jack has been struggling to find a home too.
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Old 04-20-2020, 12:09 PM   #4
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Some people think that Simmons might fall because he doesn't really have a position in the NFL. Myles Jack has been struggling to find a home too.
Dude if you go look at the athletic scores, Simmons rates as an elite athlete at 3 different positions.

Myles Jack is actually you know, really good, I wish our LB's struggled like that.
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Old 04-20-2020, 12:15 PM   #5
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Some people think that Simmons might fall because he doesn't really have a position in the NFL.
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Old 04-20-2020, 12:14 PM   #6
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Everyone said that LB Derrick Johnson wouldn't drop to us at 15th either.
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Old 04-20-2020, 12:17 PM   #7
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Well, i was here on this board when everyone was screaming that Johnson would NEVER still be on the board when we picked. I was here during the live draft and people were still saying he was long gone before we picked.

A lot of that has to do with the fatalistic attitude of we Chiefs' fans.
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Old 04-20-2020, 12:21 PM   #8
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Well, i was here on this board when everyone was screaming that Johnson would NEVER still be on the board when we picked. I was here during the live draft and people were still saying he was long gone before we picked.

A lot of that has to do with the fatalistic attitude of we Chiefs' fans.
Over the years we've learned that off the ball LB's don't get picked super high if they have question marks.
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Old 04-20-2020, 12:32 PM   #9
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Well, i was here on this board when everyone was screaming that Johnson would NEVER still be on the board when we picked. I was here during the live draft and people were still saying he was long gone before we picked.
Prove it
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Old 04-20-2020, 12:46 PM   #10
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They only way this makes sense is if they scouted next years crop of WRs and didn't see anyone they liked.

Veach has shown he is aggressive when there is a player he likes... both with money and draft resources. Speaks, Mathieu, Clark, Watkins...and Mahomes (Dorsey).

Obviously, there is a lot of communication with Reid and Spagnuolo. They know what they have and what they need...

Mahomes is Veach's professional crown jewel...the pick of a lifetime. He is always going to aggressively to supply him with weapons.. which as a fan is fun to experience.

He caught a lot of ridicule for saying "He's the best player I've ever seen" before Mahomes was even starting....so I think there is a little of "prove you wrong" vindication in him.

I think the deal would have to include next's years #32.

This move would free up $14 million next year (not resigning Watkins)...then you subtract an additional 2021 1st round contract. Money is going to be tight in the future...

5 years of Ruggs is, financially, about the cost of a single season of Watkins...there is a chance to get a 3rd comp if Watkins signs a big deal. Chiefs probably arent going to be big spenders next season...

The other boon is the Chiefs offense will be nasty this year....
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Old 04-20-2020, 12:48 PM   #11
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They only way this makes sense is if they scouted next years crop of WRs and didn't see anyone they liked.

Veach has shown he is aggressive when there is a player he likes... both with money and draft resources. Speaks, Mathieu, Clark, Watkins...and Mahomes.

Obviously, there is a lot of communication with Reid and Spagnuolo. They know what they have and what they need...

Mahomes is Veach's professional crown jewel...the pick of a lifetime. He is always going to aggressively to supply him with weapons..
It's because Ruggs has something no one else does, special speed, the Chiefs value the shit out of it.
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Old 04-20-2020, 01:11 PM   #12
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It's because Ruggs has something no one else does, special speed, the Chiefs value the shit out of it.
Yep.

They'd have at least 2 years of Ruggs, Hill and Hardman and one year with those guys AND Watkins and Robinson.

I doubt it will shake out that way but if it did, I wouldn't complain a bit.
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It's because Ruggs has something no one else does, special speed, the Chiefs value the shit out of it.
Yes, when he has the ball or is running in a straight line.
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