Call Your Shot: Who’s the Chiefs first selection in the 2020 Draft

[staylor26]

I’m going with Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Jay Gruden is a pretty good OC and will get some production out of Minshew. They won't be good, but they won't be bad enough to be #1.

Then who do you like at 1 next year....who wins the Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Luck was an athlete damn near on par with RGIII (better in many ways) and had a !@#$ing CANNON.

Dial down Luck's athleticism and raw arm strength and I think Ryan is essentially who you end up with. I think you're selling Ryan short a bit - dude's not just some game manager. Ryan's a great passer and a really smart player. There's not a lot to dislike in Ryans game, he's just not a guy with truly plus plus arm strength or athleticism (though he was a decent athlete at Burrows age).

Burrow is absolutely not Andrew Luck. Luck's a guy you'd draw up in a lab - there was nothing missing on that kid. Powerful arm, great mind, great size and premier athleticism. If you were building a QB in Madden you'd build Andrew Luck.

Burrow ain't Luck.

I don't think Andrew Luck would have had to transfer to play.....people also forget Andrew Lucks major at Stanford wasn't some athlete major he took what was it business drafting or something, dude is legit smart.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Yea I think Tony Romo is his absolute ceiling.

But he has such a good feel in the pocket and his IQ is off the charts, so I think he has a really high floor.

I think Carson Palmer is his floor barring catastrophic injury.

Which version?

Because 27 year old Palmer was looking like he was going to become the best QB in the league. Then he plateaued a bit, got hurt and ultimately kinda underwhelmed a bit through the middle half of his career.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Jay Gruden is a pretty good OC and will get some production out of Minshew. They won't be good, but they won't be bad enough to be #1.



Palmer was a very toolsy sort of QB before injuries zapped it all away unless we're talking like Oakland tier Carson as his floor or something.

I’m just talking overall career. At worst he has a similar career to a guy like that.

I just think he’s a really safe player because of his intelligence, feel in the pocket, and intangibles.

I do think he’s overrated, but it’s his floor that makes him a #1 overall caliber QB.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Then who do you like at 1 next year....who wins the Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes?

It's going to be an NFC team.

Giants, Bears, Lions if Stafford is injured again, Panthers or Redskins.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by KC Hawks

If you want a good laugh, check out PFF's mock draft:

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-three...ove-in-round-3

There is no middle ground on this one. This is either the greatest mock draft of all time or the absolute worst mock draft of all time.

I'm leaning toward the latter.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I’m just talking overall career. At worst he has a similar career to a guy like that.

I just think he’s a really safe player because of his intelligence, feel in the pocket, and intangibles.

I do think he’s overrated, but it’s his floor that makes him a #1 overall caliber QB.

He is safe, but safe doesn't win titles, Watson was a safer pick than Mahomes....If you have Joe Burrow and your competition is Pat Mahomes and Trevor Lawrence you probably lose.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

It's going to be an NFC team.

Giants, Bears, Lions if Stafford is injured again, Panthers or Redskins.

Giants would be hilarious cause old Gettleman would be fired and then we'd see if a new GM would stick with Jones or draft Lawrence and trade Jones away...

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Mecca

He is safe, but safe doesn't win titles, Watson was a safer pick than Mahomes....If you have Joe Burrow and your competition is Pat Mahomes and Trevor Lawrence you probably lose.

Yea I don’t think he’s going to be an MVP caliber QB. He’s going to need a great team around him again at this level to win it all.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Giants would be hilarious cause old Gettleman would be fired and then we'd see if a new GM would stick with Jones or draft Lawrence and trade Jones away...

The Giants are in pretty bad shape.

They've made all sorts of moves on Defense to get a collective wet queef of a result. They are weak at the tackle spots and well the weapons game is horrible when your top asset is Engram.

The Redskins have jack shit on Offense, but I do wonder if the D will overachieve anyhow.

Bears are a real darkhorse. If they can't establish good QB play early on I think the whole team is going to quit on wanna be Andy.

[Mecca]

Here is the real darkhorse......what if Bill Belichick tanks the **** out of this year and starts Jarrett Stidham so he can ride all the way to Trevor Lawrence.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Which version?

Because 27 year old Palmer was looking like he was going to become the best QB in the league. Then he plateaued a bit, got hurt and ultimately kinda underwhelmed a bit through the middle half of his career.

Definitely morseo mid to late career Palmer.

He was a badass early on so I wouldn’t day his floor is that high, just talking about a similar career trajectory.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

It's going to be an NFC team.

Giants, Bears, Lions if Stafford is injured again, Panthers or Redskins.

Bears will pivot at QB if Trubisky still sucks. Foles will keep them competitive. Rivera is a damn good coach and a guy who's been in the league a long time, I can't see the Redskins being truly terrible if they can get representative QB play from Haskins.

I've already mentioned that I like Jones and there's a little too much parity in the NFC East for me to think they'll get steamrolled in the division.

1.1 will probably be a 2-3 win team. Panthers seem a possibility w/ an untested (though talented) head coach and a limited Bridgewater. Though the Lions pick is a home run if Stafford isn't fully recovered. They'll suuuuuuuuck.

Ultimately I think the Jags roster is just trash. If I were betting, it would be on them. That's gonna be a strong division from top to bottom. They have very little buy-in throughout the organization. Doug Marrone appears to be on borrowed time. I mean there are just a ton of ingredients for the kind of wholesale implosion you need to get to 1.1.

[staylor26]

The Redskins DL is going to be so nasty that I can’t see them ending up with the #1 overall pick.

Between that and Rivera it’s hard to imagine them being worse than in 2019.

[Mecca]

No one likes my idea because well it would suck ass.