Call Your Shot: Who’s the Chiefs first selection in the 2020 Draft

[staylor26]

I’m going with Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Here is the real darkhorse......what if Bill Belichick tanks the **** out of this year and starts Jarrett Stidham so he can ride all the way to Trevor Lawrence.

I dared not speak it into existence...

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I dared not speak it into existence...

I mean do we really think it could happen? Would he stake his reputation as the greatest coach ever to go 1-15 on purpose?

[ThyKingdomCome15]

I change my pick because I know Patrick Queen wont make it to 32 and we won't trade up for a LB'er. This pick is courtesy of Kay Adams...

Grant Delpit, S, LSU

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Luck was an athlete damn near on par with RGIII (better in many ways) and had a !@#$ing CANNON.

Dial down Luck's athleticism and raw arm strength and I think Ryan is essentially who you end up with. I think you're selling Ryan short a bit - dude's not just some game manager. Ryan's a great passer and a really smart player. There's not a lot to dislike in Ryans game, he's just not a guy with truly plus plus arm strength or athleticism (though he was a decent athlete at Burrows age).

Burrow is absolutely not Andrew Luck. Luck's a guy you'd draw up in a lab - there was nothing missing on that kid. Powerful arm, great mind, great size and premier athleticism. If you were building a QB in Madden you'd build Andrew Luck.

Burrow ain't Luck.

No he’s not and again I’m not saying he is the prospect Luck was. I didn’t want to bring him up bc it’s basically a sin to compare prospects to him, but he’s a bit like Peyton Manning, who also did not have great mobility or a cannon arm that Luck had, but had elite football IQ and feel for the pocket.

I can’t think of a recent QB prospect that has the mental processing and football IQ that Burrow does. Luck is the last one that comes to mind, but before him? Probably Matt Ryan.

Burrow is already throwing the ball in the right places to receivers, exploiting zone coverage, reading most blitzes pre-snap, understanding defensive coverages and just seems like he’s every bit prepared for anything. Brent Venables is a damn good defensive coordinator. He’s been even better with the insane talent he’s got at Clemson. And Burrow wrecked them. He just beautiful destroyed that defense with his goddamn mind the same way Manning and Luck did to defenses.
Matt Ryan was pretty good but never that good. Neither was Romo.

Prospects like Burrow don’t come along very often.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I mean do we really think it could happen? Would he stake his reputation as the greatest coach ever to go 1-15 on purpose?

Bill Belichick is a Machiavellian sociopath. I don't think he worries about his reputation beyond how he can elevate it. If he eats shit for a year and never recovers, he's still the guy who's won more championships than any coach in history.

But if you told him he could tank a single season and set himself up for another 10 year run where he could 'prove' once and for all that it was him, not Brady, that made everything work?

I think he'd take that deal in a heartbeat.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Here is the real darkhorse......what if Bill Belichick tanks the **** out of this year and starts Jarrett Stidham so he can ride all the way to Trevor Lawrence.

He’s too competitive/arrogant to tank this year while Brady wins.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Bears will pivot at QB if Trubisky still sucks. Foles will keep them competitive. Rivera is a damn good coach and a guy who's been in the league a long time, I can't see the Redskins being truly terrible if they can get representative QB play from Haskins.

I've already mentioned that I like Jones and there's a little too much parity in the NFC East for me to think they'll get steamrolled in the division.

1.1 will probably be a 2-3 win team. Panthers seem a possibility w/ an untested (though talented) head coach and a limited Bridgewater. Though the Lions pick is a home run if Stafford isn't fully recovered. They'll suuuuuuuuck.

Ultimately I think the Jags roster is just trash. If I were betting, it would be on them. That's gonna be a strong division from top to bottom. They have very little buy-in throughout the organization. Doug Marrone appears to be on borrowed time. I mean there are just a ton of ingredients for the kind of wholesale implosion you need to get to 1.1.

We'll see, but I'm feeling the Jags end up picking 3 times on Thursday and they can really boost the morale on the roster if they get it right. Just takes one team to look at the edges and like Yannick more than what's available.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by staylor26

He’s too competitive/arrogant to tank this year while Brady wins.

Yea but that's one year.......if he wins a SB without Brady even if it's in 3 years, he'll be the answer to the question of which one was why they won...

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

We'll see, but I'm feeling the Jags end up picking 3 times on Thursday and they can really boost the morale on the roster if they get it right. Just takes one team to look at the edges and like Yannick more than what's available.

But if they trade Yannick, they’re going to be worse off for 2020.

That teams not winning many games if all their best players are second year guys and rookies aside from Chark.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Yea but that's one year.......if he wins a SB without Brady even if it's in 3 years, he'll be the answer to the question of which one was why they won...

I could buy it if they have a rough start and injuries pile up early. Beyond that, I can’t see that being the plan going into the season.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by staylor26

But if they trade Yannick, they’re going to be worse off for 2020.

That teams not winning many games if all their best players are second year guys and rookies aside from Chark.

I never said they're going to win many games. But if they can get some pieces in place I think they can have an end of season surge like the Dolphins last year and miss out on the sweeps.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by staylor26

But if they trade Yannick, they’re going to be worse off for 2020.

That teams not winning many games if all their best players are second year guys and rookies aside from Chark.

Yannick isn't playing there so they have to do something with him.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Matt Ryan was pretty good but never that good. Neither was Romo.

Prospects like Burrow don’t come along very often.

Matt Ryan won an MVP. And to prove it was no accident, he had a season in 2018 that was arguably BETTER than his MVP season with a new coaching staff and lesser weapons.

I think where we differ is not in our view of Luck, but in our view of Matt Ryan.

Matt Ryan was a Kyle Shanahan brainfart away from going to the Hall of Fame. Hell, he might STILL end up in the Hall. There aren't 30 QBs in NFL history who have had better careers than Ryan has had. And he probably has 3-5 good years left.

If I said "Burrows will have Phil Simms career" just about anyone would take that. Matt Ryan wouldn't wipe his ass with Phil Simms career.

Ryan's DAMN good.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

I never said they're going to win many games. But if they can get some pieces in place I think they can have an end of season surge like the Dolphins last year and miss out on the sweeps.

Possibly, but a bad/young roster is doomed with no TC.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Possibly, but a bad/young roster is doomed with no TC.

Possibly, but I don't think a season happens at all without some form of TC