***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[lewdog]

Where are we at on the 30 different strains?

https://www.foxnews.com/science/coro...ns-study-finds

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Where are we at on the 30 different strains?

https://www.foxnews.com/science/coro...ns-study-finds

Well we can’t believe anything out of China.

I’ve gotten the feeling seeing the task force taking the past couple days that they are worried about a vaccine never coming.

[SAUTO]

Anyone listening to Las Vegas mayor’s interview on cnn right now?

[SAUTO]

This woman is delusional.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

I don’t know much about 5g but I’m not seeing how it can spread a virus.

Well because China and the deep state and HAARP rings and shit.

It's clearly a secret plan formulated by the great nation of New Mexico.

[SAUTO]

“It’s the responsibility of every person to know when they are sick and can get others sick” might be the most ignorant statement today.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Well because China and the deep state and HAARP rings and shit.

Never looked in into any of that but it sounds like a bunch of bullshit

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Not sure what you are even getting at.


Being exposed in any way can make you test positive. I think it’s shown that there’sa percentage of the population that’s going to die if they get it at all.


Think about elevators. Shiny metal. Cramped space...

I mean I posted about the elevator usage correlation among NYC, Italy and Spain earlier.

I wonder what's the permutation that yields the highest probability of infection for a person among these parameters: the "amount" of virus being shed by an infector through droplet spread, the amount of infectors shedding any "amount" of the virus, the space of separation between an uninfected person and an infector, and the persistence of the virus through droplet spread in an enclosed area.

At worst, data concludes with a high amount of certainty that all it takes one viral spreader passing briefly within 20ft of N amount of people to infect a large percentage of them. The commonality among Italy/NYC/Spain/Wuhan seems to suggest that it's consistent exposure to infected spreaders to sustain the outbreak, and that seems too simplistic to be the case.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

“It’s the responsibility of every person to know when they are sick and can get others sick” might be the most ignorant statement today.

She wants to be the control group. Pretty entertaining interview.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by eDave

She wants to be the control group.

This proposal is acceptable.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by eDave

She wants to be the control group.

She’s crazy.

So you want to open the casinos?
I didn’t say that, I want people to work. There’s professional teams to come watch here.
So you want to open the stadiums?

You’re putting words in my mouth. I didn’t say that. I want people to work.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Where are we at on the 30 different strains?

https://www.foxnews.com/science/coro...ns-study-finds

I know that's a scary headline, but people need to calm down a little bit about this.

Mutations are not strains in and of themselves. There are all types of mutations, called missense mutations, that can occur in an organism that result in no functional change. If you were to sample any person with a viral or bacterial infection, you are not going to find genetic uniformity within the pathogen.

Also, since you are not transmitting all of the virus to someone through a few respiratory droplets, the virus itself undergoes genetic bottlenecking during every transmission. This actually happened to cheetahs several thousand years ago, which is why they have less genetic diversity than other big cats.

Their study, which again has not been subject to peer review, does states that mutations have the possibility to affect pathogenicity of the virus, but this is true of every virus.

[SAUTO]

I want them to open.

What are they going to do to keep people safe?

I don’t care, that’s for them to figure out. Just open

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Never looked in into any of that but it sounds like a bunch of bullshit

I'm sorry but Alex Jones is a very reputable member of the media.

[SAUTO]

She knew plenty of people that coughed in January...