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Old 04-22-2020, 07:19 PM   #1
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You measure greatness in championships, and Mahomes has already equaled Woodson there. Playing a long time is great. Pro Bowls and All Pros are great. League MVP and Superbowl MVP trumps all of that.
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Old 04-22-2020, 07:26 PM   #2
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You measure greatness in championships, and Mahomes has already equaled Woodson there. Playing a long time is great. Pro Bowls and All Pros are great. League MVP and Superbowl MVP trumps all of that.
Eli Manning won two SB titles.

John Unitas
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Warren Moon
Jim Kelly
Dan Fouts
Dan Marino
Philip Rivers

....won...0...combined.
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Eli Manning won two SB titles.

John Unitas
Fran Tarkenton
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Dan Marino
Philip Rivers

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Johnny Unitas thinks you missed a trivia question.
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Eli Manning won two SB titles.

John Unitas
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Dan Marino
Philip Rivers

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Why did you put Dan Fouts and Philip Rivers on that list of all-time great QBs?
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Why did you put Dan Fouts and Philip Rivers on that list of all-time great QBs?
Fouts is a Hall of Famer
number 20 All Time TD passes
number16 All Time in yards

Rivers will be a HOFer
number 6 All Time TD passes
number 6 All Time in yards
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Fouts is a Hall of Famer
number 20 All Time TD passes
number16 All Time in yards

Rivers will be a HOFer
number 6 All Time TD passes
number 6 All Time in yards
They're also #1 and #2 all time in being stupid ass slaves
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You measure greatness in championships, and Mahomes has already equaled Woodson there. Playing a long time is great. Pro Bowls and All Pros are great. League MVP and Superbowl MVP trumps all of that.
Yes and no.

If Mahomes doesn't play another down for some reason, or maybe only plays a couple more seasons and then stops for whatever reason, we'll look at his career and many will think "he was a flash in the pan." Or a one-hit wonder, whatever sounds right to you.

It wouldn't be that different from that NBA guard (can't remember his name now) that came off the bench as a rookie or a 2nd-year guy, and nearly took his team to the championship. Everyone jumped on his bandwagon for a couple years after that, but he got hurt or something and disappeared. No one looking back now is going to say "that guy was one of the greatest guards in the modern era." Because he didn't stick around long enough and play at that high level for long enough.

Woodson, on the other hand, has a 17-year career of consistent greatness to contrast/compare with any #10 pick.

Now, it won't be very long before you'll have to revisit this conversation and admit that Mahomes is the greatest 10th pick ever. 3 or 4 more years? Just not right now.
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