***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[ChiliConCarnage]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Damn. 3k a day?

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...mpression=true

I guess that seems pretty good for 200k cases daily. Probably gives us a measure for how many cases they think aren't being caught now.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

I know how I'd extract the antibodies from you:

https://rare.us/uncategorized/mom-dr...e-coronavirus/

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Corona gets another.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/us/mi...ka7a79LQOjGc-o

Well, that's sad and ridiculous.

[Marcellus]

Holy shit I just saw where they estimated retail sales loss to this point is $1.3 Trillion.

Its been what 6 weeks?

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Damn. 3k a day?

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...mpression=true

So we are on track for 70K + 80K = 150k by June 1?

Yikes.

[Kiimo]

antibody test summary from oliver, starting at the antibody test section.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Holy shit I just saw where they estimated retail sales loss to this point is $1.3 Trillion.

Its been what 6 weeks?

Why are you surprised?

Buying shit is America's number 1 pass time, **** baseball.

[Kidd Lex]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

For argument's sake an antibody test hasn't even been proven to tell us anything one way or another yet so I'd pay zero.

If we discover that, as suspected (and hoped for) that the antibodies show you had it and can't get it again which is a huge assumption then I'd pay 500 bucks to know, easy.

But for the hundreds of tests out there that essentially do NOTHING and aren't even FDA submitted, much less approved?

I'd pay ****ing zero because you may as well take a Scientology e-meter test.

What I respect about this post is how all in you are on the fact you’re right. Well played sir, keep that passion. 3 million people thus far show with some certainty that antibodies do mean you have protection, now for how long is the big question. The fact they are treating the sickest patients with recovered patients blood plasma is a pretty good sign of antibody meaning protection. Immunity forever, that’s a different story altogether although the latest science says this Coronavirus mutates far less than even the seasonal flu. “But there’s 30 strains already....” 30 strains that the science says so far would all be protected by the antibodies a “survivor” produces against any given strain. Don’t know for certain yet, but the prospects for significant immunity are looking very very positive.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Why are you surprised?

Buying shit is America's number 1 pass time, **** baseball.

I dont think you understand the impact economically just like you think I dont understand the impact from a health perspective.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Holy shit I just saw where they estimated retail sales loss to this point is $1.3 Trillion.

Its been what 6 weeks?

It's a good thing some places are starting to open up albeit slowly.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

This is absolutely not a fact yet. We HOPE they will but Fauci is saying they don't know yet.

It would go against everything else in virology at this point

[O.city]

Less than 1000 deaths today. So that’s good but Monday’s and all

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by Mecca

The other thing is we live in a time where we are so saturated with information that lots of people are lazy about it. So they take the few stories they want to hang onto and then hold on to them as the facts.

People heard that flu shit and won't let it go. No matter where you get your news or your information you should do some critical thinking, we seem to have lost that as a society in general.

Maybe if the public wasn't told it has a CFR/IFR of 4% and a R0 of 5 at the beginning, and we need to flatten the curve, before we can open up... We've done that, and the curve has been flattening and we are slowly opening back up. The projected IFR for those under 65 and healthy is expected to be similar to the flu. That's critical thinking. How do we accommodate the risk for those vulnerable, while at the same time getting 30,000,000 Americans back to work, decreasing suicide hotline calls, domestic violence calls, and hoping the decrease in Child abuse isn't really just no one being able to interact with kids outside of their family...

And you are calling others dumb... When in reality, not to recognize both sides, the true risk we know now, and understand there is a middle ground to this issue. You say 2/3 approve of staying locked down. I'm guessing they have a job, at least for a while longer... Do you think that number will stay at 2/3 if we lose another 15 million jobs as predicted in May/June? What about when the extra stimulus runs out?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

Less than 1000 deaths today. So that’s good but Monday’s and all

Yeah and a lot of states have yet to report. That being said, it could be some of the lowest Sunday-Monday numbers we have seen in a long time.

[Kidd Lex]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

antibody test summary from oliver, starting at the antibody test section.

I enjoy John Oliver as entertainment, but that segment is already outdated. That’s how fast this whole thing works, new science hour by hour, and the science I posted a few hours ago looks damn good for immunity.

Also this is a FDA approved antibody test:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost....-accuracy/amp/