***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Comparing these places to the US makes no sense. You are listing countries completely spread out both geographically and culturally from each other, even more than the US. Three of those are islands, and one is virtually an island with NK as a border. If we want to play that game the more isolated states here are also doing better than others.

For example Wyoming, Montana, Hawaii, and Alaska are all doing better than Iceland in deaths per capita. Not surprisingly isolated regions are doing better. That’s the only thing we can draw from the countries you listed.

Let’s try countries more similar both geographically and culturally to each other and the US. Germany, France, Italy, UK, and Spain together have about the same population as the US. Together they have 120k deaths to our 75k.

The only one with lower deaths per capita than the US is Germany with the rest being way more than what we have.

Your comparison would be like someone in Italy saying they should have done whatever Alaska, Montana, Hawaii, and Wyoming did.

Something something steamroller something something

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Something something steamroller something something

I'm glad that gif got some folks all riled up!

something something depressing statement that makes everyone think i should just go ahead and kill myself something something

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Pablo

I'm glad that gif got some folks all riled up!

something something depressing statement that makes everyone think i should just go ahead and kill myself something something

You killing yourself would be a net positive, I agree.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

You killing yourself would be a net positive, I agree.

We've all read your posts. Nothing will ever be good again or enjoyable. The entire world is grey and on fire. You're wanted in rabble's "I'm depressed" thread.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Pablo

We've all read your posts. Nothing will ever be good again or enjoyable. The entire world is grey and on fire. You're wanted in rabble's "I'm depressed" thread.

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by O.city

People taking their boats and going to the beach is a little different than crowding back into restaurants and work places no?

you can't social distance when you are together for so long, but yeah it is a weird one. Smithville lake was packed I MEAN ASS TO ELBOWS yesterday.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Well, you did at one point say it would take KC decades to recover.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

you can't social distance when you are together for so long, but yeah it is a weird one. Smithville lake was packed I MEAN ASS TO ELBOWS yesterday.

I've been out fishing and mushroom hunting quite a bit this spring and shit is packed everywhere. I guess I should just be thankful I have some hobbies I can still enjoy when everything else is locked down, but shit, get outta my spots you assholes.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Pablo

I've been out fishing and mushroom hunting quite a bit this spring and shit is packed everywhere. I guess I should just be thankful I have some hobbies I can still enjoy when everything else is locked down, but shit, get outta my spots you assholes.

Jerking off is a good social distancing hobby, especially if you do it in public.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Well, you did at one point say it would take KC decades to recover.

DECADES. While bodies pile in the street, the sun is choked out for months on end with chem-trail/vaccination/mind control mist.

I do like the straw man post though, very BEP-esque.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

You know, it would be really annoying if there were strategies employed by numerous other countries that have stopped the disease in its tracks, especially if those strategies had been promoted by public health experts and on this thread for weeks, and that countries that had employed said strategies were actually able to open up after the period of initial lock down.

Oh wait...

You know, I don’t think this country has the social cohesion to employ those strategies. Even if 80% are willing to do it, if 10 or 20% actively flout those strategies that is probably enough to cause them to fail.

I think the 20% has probably won. The 80% might as well admit defeat and open everything back up.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Well, you did at one point say it would take KC decades to recover.

Pretty sure I said 'never' and I'll stand by it.

If I can find new employment I'll be getting the **** out of town since it's going to be such a shithole.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Pretty sure I said 'never' and I'll stand by it.

If I can find new employment I'll be getting the **** out of town since it's going to be such a shithole.

Just make sure you bring that same energy to your interviews and lucky new hometown!

[Demonpenz]

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[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Pretty sure I said 'never' and I'll stand by it.

If I can find new employment I'll be getting the **** out of town since it's going to be such a shithole.

So, that was more like a strawkid.... not a fully grown, mature strawman.