***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

The numbers coming in from the nursing homes around the US are pretty devastating. They completely dropped the ball on those

[O.city]

There's no ripping the band aid off. People aren't consuming if you're "open" or not.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Seems we could use this data to come up with a mitigation plan based off risk.

Barring a miracle, the only way out is forward. People that are at risk need to protect themselves, the rest of us need to make our own decisions and not blame others for the fallout.

[ChiliConCarnage]

Originally Posted by notorious

I guess this means the baseball players socially distanced really well and haven’t been exposed.

They probably would have been better off building immunity since they are healthy.

It says the results were 60% male 80% white. Unless I missed a bunch of Royals signings, I don't think this is the players or they are a small part of it.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by notorious

Barring a miracle, the only way out is forward. People that are at risk need to protect themselves, the rest of us need to make our own decisions and not blame others for the fallout.

Thats what damn near every country is gonna end up doing. The small Asian ones that were on it from the beginning won't, but pretty much everywhere else will.

[FloridaMan88]

There may never be an effective/scalable vaccine, but society must re-open and go back to normal and not some bullshit “new normal”.

During the 1968-1969 Hong Kong Flu Pandemic which killed 100,000+ Americans (mostly ages 65+) and had an R0 comparable to COVID-19 (1.06-2.06 during the first wave and 1.21-3.58 during the second wave), there was no “social distancing” or lockdowns.

Instead America went on with their lives and historical events such as Woodstock, and millions gathering to watch and celebrate Neil Armstrong walk on the moon took place.

Meanwhile 50 years later people are now locked in their homes and afraid to get a haircut.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by notorious

Comparing insanely wealthy athletes to the average Joe probably isn’t anywhere near the real numbers.

the same holds true when comparing the results from new york.


but people have used that to make up numbers for weeks about the percentage of people dying from this.



and i'm not thinking it was only players.


it said MLB employees.

[KCUnited]

What is it about hardware stores that makes people feel safe consuming onsite? Is it a specific demographic? I also saw lines of dudes outside flower shops yesterday like they were having a fire sale on soundbars.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

There may never be an effective/scalable vaccine, but society must re-open and go back to normal and not some bullshit “new normal”.

During the 1968-1969 Hong Kong Flu Pandemic which killed 100,000+ Americans (mostly ages 65+) and had an R0 comparable to COVID-19 (1.06-2.06 during the first wave and 1.21-3.58 during the second wave), there was no “social distancing” or lockdowns.

Instead America went on with their lives and historical events such as Woodstock, and millions gathering to watch and celebrate Neil Armstrong walk on the moon took place.

Meanwhile 50 years later people are now locked in their homes and afraid to get a haircut.

You are probably right the experts didn't factor in any previous pandemics and just ****ing winged it.

There might be a possibility that this New virus that is baffling experts is worse than an internet warrior on football forum without 0 medical knowledge thinks it is.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

What is it about hardware stores that makes people feel safe consuming onsite? Is it a specific demographic? I also saw lines of dudes outside flower shops yesterday like they were having a fire sale on soundbars.

Hardware stores are a shitshow, I just think it's the idea of doing home improvement makes people feel like they are different because they are self doers or something.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

the same holds true when comparing the results from new york.


but people have used that to make up numbers for weeks about the percentage of people dying from this.



and i'm not thinking it was only players.


it said MLB employees.

My mistake.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by notorious

My mistake.

no worries buddy.

[Mecca]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/11/mark...-standard.html

“Whatever the White House is doing for the president and vice president, that’s the protocol I want to use for my employees. And if I can’t adhere to that, then why would I put them at risk?” said Cuban, who added he’s still not going out to eat at restaurants, even though Texas started to allow limited dine-in service.

Most Americans do not have access to daily Covid-19 testing, Cuban said, and “that’s the problem.” He said Americans have to effectively ask themselves: “Who can we trust with our lives?”

Cuban laying it down....

[notorious]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

no worries buddy.

Won’t be the first, or last time I’m wrong on here.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

There may never be an effective/scalable vaccine, but society must re-open and go back to normal and not some bullshit “new normal”.

During the 1968-1969 Hong Kong Flu Pandemic which killed 100,000+ Americans (mostly ages 65+) and had an R0 comparable to COVID-19 (1.06-2.06 during the first wave and 1.21-3.58 during the second wave), there was no “social distancing” or lockdowns.

Instead America went on with their lives and historical events such as Woodstock, and millions gathering to watch and celebrate Neil Armstrong walk on the moon took place.

Meanwhile 50 years later people are now locked in their homes and afraid to get a haircut.

And what was the CFR of that?

You acknowledge that we shut down in 1917-1918, right?