***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Kidd Lex]

Originally Posted by Donger

What's the issue?

Yeah **** United. They have on their site from less than two weeks ago they were removing the middle seats. How the hell did they go ahead and fill every seat anyways? I wouldn’t be worried about the air as much as the person next to me inevitably touching me and shedding any virus they have. I won’t be flying United anytime soon. My brothers still fly for work and said every plane is a damn near empty on SW.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by The PMII Hypothesis

Yeah **** United. They have on their site from less than two weeks ago they were removing the middle seats. How the hell did they go ahead and fill every seat anyways? I wouldn’t be worried about the air as much as the person next to me inevitably touching me and shedding any virus they have. I won’t be flying United anytime soon. My brothers still fly for work and said every plane is a damn near empty on SW.

to some it seems as though they dont care how many die as long as they make that dollar

[Donger]

Originally Posted by The PMII Hypothesis

Yeah **** United. They have on their site from less than two weeks ago they were removing the middle seats. How the hell did they go ahead and fill every seat anyways? I wouldn’t be worried about the air as much as the person next to me inevitably touching me and shedding any virus they have. I won’t be flying United anytime soon. My brothers still fly for work and said every plane is a damn near empty on SW.

A United spokesman declined to comment on how many people were on Weiss' flight, saying that it "did have a higher than average load factor but it still departed with empty seats."

United Airlines recently announced that it was making some middle seats unavailable for passengers to select. But the company said it was also not reducing capacity on flights, so a passenger could be seated in a middle or adjacent seat if necessary.

"Though we cannot guarantee that all customers will be seated next to an unoccupied seat, based on historically low travel demand and the implementation of our various social distancing measures that is the likely outcome," the airline said in a statement to CNN.

The flight had "an additional 25 medical professionals on board who were flying for free" and all passengers and employees were asked to wear face coverings, the airline said in a statement.

The spokesperson added that most of the airline's flights are operating at less than half capacity and that passengers can rebook if they feel their safety is in jeopardy.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by The PMII Hypothesis

Yeah **** United. They have on their site from less than two weeks ago they were removing the middle seats. How the hell did they go ahead and fill every seat anyways? I wouldn’t be worried about the air as much as the person next to me inevitably touching me and shedding any virus they have. I won’t be flying United anytime soon. My brothers still fly for work and said every plane is a damn near empty on SW.

You can get like a 4 day cruise for like 125 $ right now , sounds like a good deal.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'm as hopeful as anyone, but damn, they're gonna end up cancelling sports for a long time aren't they.

That would be absolutely ****ing ridiculous.

I take this serious, I’ve done my part in terms of social distancing, but the “cure” can’t be worse than the disease. I’m sorry, but this idea that we’re all supposed to hide inside until (IF) there’s a vaccine is asinine.

[Kidd Lex]

Originally Posted by Monticore

You can get like a 4 day cruise for like 125 $ right now , sounds like a good deal.

Hard pass 😂

[O.city]

Originally Posted by staylor26

That would be absolutely ****ing ridiculous.

I take this serious, I’ve done my part in terms of social distancing, but the “cure” can’t be worse than the disease. I’m sorry, but this idea that we’re all supposed to hide inside until (IF) there’s a vaccine is asinine.

Fauci was on with Peter King about football. Sounds like they're gonna try and torpedo that as well.

Crazy times. I don't know what the hell is gonna happen.

[O.city]

It's also kind of weird to me that guys that write and cover the NFL are some of the most ardent "the season isn't happening they shouldn't be playing the nfl is the monster" ones.

Do they realize where they get paid from?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by O.city

It's also kind of weird to me that guys that write and cover the NFL are some of the most ardent "the season isn't happening they shouldn't be playing the nfl is the monster" ones.

Do they realize where they get paid from?

Virtue signaling at its finest.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by O.city

It's also kind of weird to me that guys that write and cover the NFL are some of the most ardent "the season isn't happening they shouldn't be playing the nfl is the monster" ones.

Do they realize where they get paid from?

They were screaming at the top of their lungs to shut down all sports ASAP.

It didn’t make any sense to me then, and doesn’t now.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by notorious

They were screaming at the top of their lungs to shut down all sports ASAP.

It didn’t make any sense to me then, and doesn’t now.

I don't think alot of the people that cover sports actually like sports.

[O.city]

Like if i get paid to cover sports and there's no sports....what's the logical conclusion there?

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by O.city

It's also kind of weird to me that guys that write and cover the NFL are some of the most ardent "the season isn't happening they shouldn't be playing the nfl is the monster" ones.

Do they realize where they get paid from?

I can survive without pro sports , losing a football season sucks but I would manage, I am more worried about my kids missing out on just being a kid.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by O.city

I don't think alot of the people that cover sports actually like sports.

And they’re ant everybody to know how much they care and how virtuous they are...

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I can survive without pro sports , losing a football season sucks but I would manage, I am more worried about my kids missing out on just being a kid.

Sure. I can survive without pro sports. It's just entertainment for me. But the guys that get paid to cover it? I'm gonna guess it'll be different for them.

Fans are the reason all these dudes have that position anyway. Seems counterintuitive to shit on them about it.