***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Please let us all know which businesses are going to "flee" Los Angeles. Disney? Paramount? Universal? Warner Brothers? Netflix? Google? Are they going to abandon Silicon Beach?

Thanks in advance! I'm sure this information will be very helpful.

Moving to the free city of Phoenix and shit.....

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Well you also have to have a sense of humor which is something I think you either never had or lost long ago. Either way it wasn't a joke, it was just a general statement.

Yeah, **** me if don't think that "jokes" about me working in porn or the other "jokes" you've made aren't even the least bit funny.

Maybe, just maybe, pete, your "jokes" are only funny to you because they sure aren't "funny" to me.

And I haven't seen any Thumbs Up on your childish "joke" posts, either.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, **** me if don't think that "jokes" about me working in porn or the other "jokes" you've made aren't even the least bit funny.

Maybe, just maybe, pete, your "jokes" are only funny to you because they sure aren't "funny" to me. And I haven't seen any Thumbs Up on your "joke" posts, either.

Oh gee, no thumbs up on my posts. Better not quit my day job any time soon, heh? Not like there is any stand up work available in LA anyway.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Let's read it together, what do you say???

Yup, it says exactly what I said. The official death cert does not say COVID does it? The hospital didn't get any extra money here did they?

Think outside your confirmation bias for a change. You're trying to use this as an example of hospitals profiting from falsifying death certs for money. But that can't be what's happening here, can it?

[007]

I don't understand our governor's logic at all. Salons and gyms can open but bars and taverns cannot.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Moving to the free city of Phoenix and shit.....

Sure. Netflix has almost completed nearly 1 million square foot of office space less than 1.5 miles from my home, only to pull up stakes and leave for Phoenix.

Warner Brothers is building a massive Frank Geary designed expansion on their lot in Burbank, so I'm sure they're in a hurry to head to Phoenix.

Universal has been working on a 5000 acre expansion, including the their theme park and hotels, for the past 15 years, but I'm sure they're in a hurry to leave for Phoenix.

Here's an idea: Stick to topics you know, like COVID-19.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Fish

Yup, it says exactly what I said. The official death cert does not say COVID does it? The hospital didn't get any extra money here did they?

Think outside your confirmation bias for a change. You're trying to use this as an example of hospitals profiting from falsifying death certs for money. But that can't be what's happening here, can it?

So then they just want to intentionally inflate the Covid numbers? I am trying to use this as proof of people are being labeled as dead by Covid when they weren't, period.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Oh gee, no thumbs up on my posts. Better not quit my day job any time soon, heh? Not like there is any stand up work available in LA anyway.

Considering you've had 55 jobs since joining CP, it would be a bad idea to quit your current gig

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Please let us all know which businesses are going to "flee" Los Angeles. Disney? Paramount? Universal? Warner Brothers? Netflix? Google? Are they going to abandon Silicon Beach?

Thanks in advance! I'm sure this information will be very helpful.

Even before this pandemic when LA County decided to go into never ending lockdown mode, how many businesses were relocating out of LA and out of California?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Sure. Netflix has almost completed nearly 1 million square foot of office space less than 1.5 miles from my home, only to pull up stakes and leave for Phoenix.

Warner Brothers is building a massive Frank Geary designed expansion on their lot in Burbank, so I'm sure they're in a hurry to head to Phoenix.

Universal has been working on a 5000 acre expansion, including the their theme park and hotels, for the past 15 years, but I'm sure they're in a hurry to leave for Phoenix.

Here's an idea: Stick to topics you know, like COVID-19.

Elon gonna lead the charge. And then all ya'll gonna be like "whut"?


You really have no sense of sarcasm either. You take shit WAY to ****ing seriously. Enjoy your evening.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Even before this pandemic when LA County decided to go into never ending lockdown mode, how many businesses were relocating out of LA and out of California?

Why don't you tell us? You seem to be the man with all of the answers.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by petegz28

So then they just want to intentionally inflate the Covid numbers? I am trying to use this as proof of people are being labeled as dead by Covid when they weren't, period.

You don't know it was intentional. He also had COVID, so it's understandable there could be a mistake.

[Delano]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Sure. Netflix has almost completed nearly 1 million square foot of office space less than 1.5 miles from my home, only to pull up stakes and leave for Phoenix.

Warner Brothers is building a massive Frank Geary designed expansion on their lot in Burbank, so I'm sure they're in a hurry to head to Phoenix.

Universal has been working on a 5000 acre expansion, including the their theme park and hotels, for the past 15 years, but I'm sure they're in a hurry to leave for Phoenix.

Here's an idea: Stick to topics you know, like COVID-19.

A self-aware man would leave this thread after this slaying, but I'm sure Pete will continue reposting his facebook feed and spewing politically motivated talking points.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, **** me if don't think that "jokes" about me working in porn or the other "jokes" you've made aren't even the least bit funny.

Maybe, just maybe, pete, your "jokes" are only funny to you because they sure aren't "funny" to me.

And I haven't seen any Thumbs Up on your childish "joke" posts, either.

Dane not sure you have moral high ground here on what kind of "jokes" are thrown around and acceptable and funny or not. I thought Petes was funny and I thought this was funny.

Here is a quote from 8:59 yesterday in Direckshuns's football thread. Childish you say?

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Pete Sweeney is an epic douchebag that doesn't know jackshit.

If Remmers sees the field this year, it's due to injuries.

The guy is garbage and he's been passed around more than Direckshun's whore mother.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Considering you've had 55 jobs since joining CP, it would be a bad idea to quit your current gig

55? That's selling me a bit short, dick!