***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

I have no idea what that's supposed to mean, its obvious you have spent no time in this thread. The vast majority of people banned have been people with right leaning views and the lefties are the ones still posting.

But you go on with your bad self.

Most of the people that post political shit here (other section) have right leaning views so that's real stunning right?

That'd be like if you went to Scandinavia and were stunned to find Scandinavians.

[ChiliConCarnage]

Originally Posted by Lzen

I have no problem with wearing the mask. I was against it at first but the info I've learned in here has me thinking it helps, at least a little if nothing else.

I'm unsure if they help or how much but it's not exactly a $1500 purchase. I don't need to spend tons of time reading reviews or spend a bunch of time on it. It costs hardly anything, Ill wear it in the hope it helps a bit. If it didn't, I'm not really out anything. I don't really get the people fighting so hard.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I posted an article questioning your very statement. Questioned by doctors, not me, and you didn't even read it. So I think you're projecting quite a bit here

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You found an article! Well, that settles it then. Someone contact the CDC and let them know!

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by lewdog

You might want to work your way past the 30lb dumbbells. I’ll whoop your ass and cough in your face next time you’re in Sun City.

Originally Posted by petegz28

I'll give you a map to find me, punk. But I'll only use words so I know you'll never bother.

I gotta admit that this thing between Pete and Lew was really annoying at first but I'm starting to become interested.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Most of the people that post political shit here (other section) have right leaning views so that's real stunning right?

That'd be like if you went to Scandinavia and were stunned to find Scandinavians.

Well thats a lie unless you lean right and we know you don't.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Wow that's some hard stuff right there..I've noticed every time other doctors or medical professionals don't toe the perceived right line then these kinds of comments start getting made.

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It's not like you're paying attention to data, so why should someone waste their time treating you like you're arguing in good faith?

You sat there and bitched endlessly about small businesses not being able to open up while arguing against procedures that will expedite their ability to open up--it's pretty clear you don't give a shit about those businesses--it was just a way for you to score some partisan points.

If someone doesn't want to wear a mask at this point it's out of selfishness, ignorance, stupidity, or a combination thereof. There are no side effects to wearing a mask.

I'm not going to apologize for having nothing but contempt for someone that hypocritical.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage

I'm unsure if they help or how much but it's not exactly a $1500 purchase. I don't need to spend tons of time reading reviews or spend a bunch of time on it. It costs hardly anything, Ill wear it in the hope it helps a bit. If it didn't, I'm not really out anything. I don't really get the people fighting so hard.

That's all it comes down to to me. I just don't get it.

[petegz28]

So let's reverse this...how long will you self-appointed "selfless people" wear your mask everywhere you go when you have no symptoms?

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[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

Bandanas are far more comfortable, and probably better than nothing

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Well, I suppose that, too. I was more thinking of putting a maks type barrier between the cages and sending air with a fan. That seems like a child's idea of an experiment to me. It doesn't seem a good representation of how a virus would spread through breathing and coughing.

I see. I didn't have a huge problem with that. No experiment there would be ideal unless you were willing to intentionally expose healthy human individuals to infected ones.

I think they were trying to test the efficacy of the barrier which the mask is. I realize that masks don't snugly sit on our faces and the droplets could potentially sneak out around the edges, but even if the mitigation is at like 33% vs 67%, I still think it's worth wearing a mask.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's not like you're paying attention to data, so why should someone waste their time treating you like you're arguing in good faith?

You sat there and bitched endlessly about small businesses not being able to open up while arguing against procedures that will expedite their ability to open up--it's pretty clear you don't give a shit about those businesses--it was just a way for you to score some partisan points.

If someone doesn't want to wear a mask at this point it's out of selfishness, ignorance, stupidity, or a combination thereof. There are no side effects to wearing a mask.

I'm not going to apologize for having nothing but contempt for someone that hypocritical.

But man, it's fogging up his glasses.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaFace

You found an article! Well, that settles it then. Someone contact the CDC and let them know!

And not only did you not read it it, you went off about it then chastised me for not being open to evidence and data

That's classic projection, bro.

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[DaFace]

Originally Posted by petegz28

So let's reverse this...how long will you self-appointed "selfless people" wear your mask everywhere you go when you have no symptoms?

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I have no symptoms and wear it everywhere (inside) now. I'll do so until public health experts deem that it's no longer necessary.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Most of the people that post political shit here (other section) have right leaning views so that's real stunning right?

That'd be like if you went to Scandinavia and were stunned to find Scandinavians.

I go over to DC every so often. Not saying the mods care about their political leanings in this thread but you can't tell me it's anywhere close to 90% right leaning people.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by petegz28

So let's reverse this...how long will you self-appointed "selfless people" wear your mask everywhere you go when you have no symptoms?

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Do you understand what asymptomatic means?

I just feel we need to start somewhere with you.