***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Spott]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Wearing a mask while working out is a good way to pass out, isn't it?

I run a few miles a day and I can’t even imagine trying to run in one of those things.

[petegz28]

Just got a call from Aqua-Tots cancelling my Son's swim lessons for Saturday. For some reason I couldn't hear they got closed back down and pushed out to June 8th.

Ah, I guess some "new restrictions got put into place". Way to go Kansas. Tell a business they can open then not even a week later tell them not really.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by Monticore

A brain and a sense of humour would be nice to lol,

Lol... Hey we all have our faults

[limested]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Wearing a mask while working out is a good way to pass out, isn't it?

2 guys at my gym wear them while working out. They also carry their own bottles of alcohol spray and soak everything before and after they use it.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Lol... Hey we all have our faults

Speak for yourself. lol

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Wearing a mask while working out is a good way to pass out, isn't it?

No clue. Never tried

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Spott

If it’s just people walking around outside, I’d say that I see maybe 10 percent as well. At the grocery store I see closer to half, but that also depends on which store it is.

It'd guess it's around a 20% outside and 90% inside here.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by limested

2 guys at my gym wear them while working out. They also carry their own bottles of alcohol spray and soak everything before and after they use it.

I know some wear them for specific training purposes. But generally speaking restricting your oxygen intake while exerting yourself is not a good combination That's how you pass out.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

No clue. Never tried

I know a lot of runner types will do it to purposely restrict their oxygen so on game day they are in better shape.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

No clue. Never tried

I once had a guy tell me the reason he doesn't work out because he says the heart has an finite amount of beats and by increasing your heart rate it reduces your life expectancy.

Before CP I thought that was going to be the dumbest argument I was ever going to get into, but I am starting to wonder if he was onto something lol.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by DaFace

It'd guess it's around a 20% outside and 90% inside here.

Outside it's about 10% here..

I'm getting jelly of the gyms opening up in other states. Going to be awhile before that happens here.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Spott

Damn, my gym hasn’t open yet. Luckily I can at least go running and work out at home as much as possible. I hope when the gym opens back up it will be the same environment as yours.

Busiest it's been in years... like New Years res time on steroids

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by DaFace

It'd guess it's around a 20% outside and 90% inside here.

It is reversed up here, but they just recommended masks few days ago.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I once had a guy tell me the reason he doesn't work out because he says the heart has an infinite about of beats and by increasing your heart rate it reduces your life expectancy.

Before CP I thought that was going to be the dumbest argument I was ever going to get into, but I am starting to wonder if he was onto something lol.

That's why I don't do cardio, bro

[srvy]

Originally Posted by limested

Even with that stupid analogy some of those dandelion spores will hit the chain link and be knocked down and not pass through.

Yeah while 100s go right on through. The masks available to most if you can even find them are dust masks they don't make a seal hold up to the sun if you even get out you can see through. But tell me what PPE you are an expert at?

The masks people I see wearing have no magic powers against viruses. They just give you a feeling of safety but in reality if you sneeze It will hold back spittle and snot. This virus seems like eyes are the most vulnerable what are you doing there? As jumpy as you are to get all red assed at anything that doesn't fit your belief I have a good idea you're a nervous ned. You're knawing on your nails right now aren't ya.