***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I specifically bought my last couch from an American manufacturer because I read that a lot of the Chinese manufacturers have carcinogenic materials in their materials. True story.

Please don't ban me from the thread.

I think smoking meat makes it more carcinogenic, you should stop eating smoked meat too.*ducks*

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I think smoking meat makes it more carcinogenic, you should stop eating smoked meat too.*ducks*

[Mecca]

Better throw away all that charcoal it's a carcinogen.

[jdubya]

Is this a furniture and tupperware thread? Where did the men go?

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Is this a furniture and tupperware thread? Where did the men go?

Happy wife happy life, especially when she makes way more money than me.

[DaFace]

Can't imagine many of them will do it, but...

KDHE recommends self-quarantine for Kansans who traveled to Lake of the Ozarks over holiday weekend https://t.co/KP21XVRFEc

— KMBC (@kmbc) May 26, 2020

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Can't imagine many of them will do it, but...

KDHE recommends self-quarantine for Kansans who traveled to Lake of the Ozarks over holiday weekend https://t.co/KP21XVRFEc

— KMBC (@kmbc) May 26, 2020

They should all be ok. Those drinks are full of Hydroxychloroquine

[Donger]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Can't imagine many of them will do it, but...

KDHE recommends self-quarantine for Kansans who traveled to Lake of the Ozarks over holiday weekend https://t.co/KP21XVRFEc

— KMBC (@kmbc) May 26, 2020

What's Missouri saying?

[limested]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Can't imagine many of them will do it, but...

KDHE recommends self-quarantine for Kansans who traveled to Lake of the Ozarks over holiday weekend https://t.co/KP21XVRFEc

— KMBC (@kmbc) May 26, 2020

The fact that it was all open air, hot and humid probably makes it safer than standing in line at Wal-mart.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Can't imagine many of them will do it, but...

KDHE recommends self-quarantine for Kansans who traveled to Lake of the Ozarks over holiday weekend https://t.co/KP21XVRFEc

— KMBC (@kmbc) May 26, 2020

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mi..._coronavirus_5

Missouri health officials call for self-quarantine after Ozarks pool party, issue travel advisory
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USA TODAY logo Missouri health officials call for self-quarantine after Ozarks pool party, issue travel advisory

A now-viral, 16-second video clip of a crowded pool party in Lake of the Ozarks on Memorial Day weekend has drawn criticism from local health officials.

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Citing recent news reports of the large crowds at Lake of the Ozarks, St. Louis County Department of Public Health issued a travel advisory Monday. The department said those who traveled and/or failed to adhere to social distancing guidelines should self-quarantine for 14 days or until they receive a negative test result for COVID-19.
A screenshot of video posted by Scott Pasmore of a pool party at Lake of the Ozarks during Memorial Day weekend. © SCREENSHOT A screenshot of video posted by Scott Pasmore of a pool party at Lake of the Ozarks during Memorial Day weekend.

“This reckless behavior endangers countless people and risks setting us back substantially from the progress we have made in slowing the spread of COVID-19,” County Executive Sam Page said in a statement. “I encourage everyone to follow the Department of Public Health advisory to determine a safe path forward in the workplace.”

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The public health department already recommends employers screen employees for health risks, but added that employers should also consider asking about recent travels and social distancing behaviors.

St. Louis Mayor Lyda Krewson said on Twitter Monday that while many safely enjoyed the lake this weekend "too many did not," citing the possibility for asymptomatic spread.

"If you were part of a group that didn’t socially distance or wear masks, please, for the health of your family, coworkers and friends, stay home for the next 14 days," she said in a tweet.

Rex Archer, director of the Kansas City, Missouri, Health Department, shared a video of the pool party on Twitter and also echoed the calls for self-quarantine.

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"Anyone who didn't practice CDC, DHSS, and KCMO Health Department social distancing guidance should self quarantine for 14 days if they have any compassion for others," Archer said in a tweet Monday.

Camden County Sheriff Tony Helms said in a statement Monday that public health violations fall under the jurisdiction of the Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services and that his department had no authority to enforce actions surrounding social distancing.

"We expect residents and visitors alike to exhibit personal responsibility at the lake," Helms said in a statement. "We also respect the right of citizens to move freely around the lake and take responsibility to protect themselves from any dangers related to COVID-19."

The Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services director Randall Williams cautioned that "COVID-19 is still here" and reminded the public in a Memorial Day message.that close contact even outside can lead to transmission.

"The virus can be transmitted even among those young and healthy who aren’t experiencing symptoms," Williams said. "When they then carry the virus and transmit it to a more vulnerable person, this is when we tend to see the long-lasting and tragic impact of these decisions that are being made.”

The pool party grabbed national attention over the weekend after a video was posted to Twitter by Scott Pasmore, an Arizona anchor for KTVK-3TV, with the caption: "No covid concerns at the lake of the ozarks." It had 17.9 million views as of Tuesday morning.

Many on social media have responded to the video with concern, while others celebrated the fact that people are out.

"It screws it up for the rest of us who are taking this pandemic seriously...their negligent behavior affects us ALL," one Twitter user commented.

"Great to see this," another wrote. "The lockdown was the single worst public policy decision in the history of our country."

Watch: Memorial Day weekend pool party in Ozarks draws national attention

Crowded locations shown in photos and videos appeared to resemble Coconuts Caribbean Beach Bar & Grill and Backwater Jack's, the latter of which advertised a "Zero Ducks Given Party" for Saturday.

Calls to both places to verify the posts and to request comment Sunday were unsuccessful or declined.

A person who answered the phone at Coconuts who identified themselves as a personal assistant to the owner said that "people are just happy to be out on the lake." .

[jdubya]

Just heard on the radio that the latest CDC numbers for C19 IFR is 0.26%. 48% of deaths are patients in convalescent and nursing care homes. Just looking at those numbers was it really worth shutting the entire economy down? In other words, if someone were to tell you last fall that this upcoming flu season is going to be almost twice as bad as previous flu seasons, would you expect a full nationwide shutdown?

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Can't imagine many of them will do it, but...

"We know that you broke quarantine and ignored health recommendations, so as a result we're going to ask you to quarantine and follow health recommendations."

I agree that compliance may be low.

[Donger]

Memorial Day weekend traffic at airports was up significantly from recent weeks.

The Transportation Security Administration says it screened about 1.5 million people between Thursday and Monday. That is still about 12.6% of the 12.2 million people it screened over the same period last year.

But those five days also included three days — Thursday, Friday, and Monday — with more than 300,000 people screened. Thursday was the first time since March 23 that the agency has screened more than 300,000 people.

The day with the highest volume was Friday. TSA said it screened 348,673 people that day, still just 12.5% of the 2.8 million people it saw that day last year.

The number of travelers has been climbing in recent weeks as many state and local governments relax stay at home policies.

[POND_OF_RED]

Got tested this morning. Weird feeling, but it’s definitely not as painful as it looks.

[BWillie]

Remember back in the middle of April I told you guys that we would have more than 100,000 deaths and it wouldn't even be close. And that I ever expected 100k before June 1st. Some of you said I was an idiot and disputed the math. I was advising everyone the models predicting 50k or 60k deaths only total was grossly incorrect.

Well, it's May 26th and here we are, 100K+ deaths in USA now.