***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Looks like we surpassed 100k deaths.

Yeah like 2 days ago

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Lmao you know you wanting everyone to do what you deem fit, makes you a selfish shithead right?

Until it has to do with abortion then it's ok to make someone do what you deem correct right?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by BigBeauford

Here you go.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The same thing was noted in Kentucky a day or two ago, but the article is behind a paywall, so I don't know about its veracity.

Here is the CDC website:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

There is a way to search by cause of death by state and ICD-10 code, but it's extremely cumbersome.

I still think the best way to catch this, for now, is to look at excess mortality.

Interesting, thanks.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by BigBeauford

If you scoll a little in my link, it's really easy to see regarding those staggering pneumonia statistics.

Yeah CRAZY that COVID is scaring people so bad they are not going to the hospital till its to late even if they have something that is very treatable.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I get it man. We've been programmed to ignore what's gone on in this country for the past 30 years. And I'm fine with you being that way, but just spare us with the "do it for your fellow Americans" crap, mmkay?

Okay, so maybe they were illegals. I don't see why that would cause you to not wear a mask.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I should know by tomorrow if I have had this Covid crap.....

Went and got the antibody test?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

There could be a direct correlation between people who are getting pneumonia and not wanting to go to hospital till its to late.

Doesn't mean States are hiding coronavirus numbers under pneumonia.

Just so we're clear, you think there's been a (potentially) massive increase in pneumonia mortality due to people refusing to seek treatment because they're afraid of a respiratory disease that presents as pneumonia and requires hospitalization for severe cases?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

Went and got the antibody test?

Yes, Sir....

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by TLO

It'd be nice if that guy had a linked source.

Save yourself some trouble and just assume that ANYTHING that originates from Twitter is politically slanted propaganda.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Just so we're clear, you think there's been a (potentially) massive increase in pneumonia mortality due to people refusing to seek treatment because they're afraid of a respiratory disease that presents as pneumonia and requires hospitalization for severe cases?

Oh I get it you are allowed to point to data trends and extrapolate them out into crazy conspiracy theories but no one else is?

Just wanna make sure we are on the same page.


And to answer you question, YES there have already been studies saying this EXACT thing is happening.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Yeah CRAZY that COVID is scaring people so bad they are not going to the hospital till its to late even if they have something that is very treatable.

One thing I've been reading a lot today is younger people experiencing strokes due to covid.

This isn't new news, it had already been reported on.

What was news to me was that some of the articles said that people were having stroke symptoms and waiting 2 or 3 days before going to the hospital.

WTF

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by BigBeauford

If you scoll a little in my link, it's really easy to see regarding those staggering pneumonia statistics.

Yeah, but in the case of Florida and their 5K pneumonia deaths, I don't see past years for comparison in that link. I would not be surprised if there was ****ery with the numbers there given that they were caught censoring data from medical examiners, didn't want to count snowbirds in death statistics (don't know if that's still going on or not) and the shitshow behind their dashboard, but given the difficulty in navigating the CDC's website for other cause of death, I don't want to make a bold proclamation.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Yes, Sir....

They are still not very accurate I believe.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Yeah, but in the case of Florida and their 5K pneumonia deaths, I don't see past years for comparison in that link. I would not be surprised if there was ****ery with the numbers there given that they were caught censoring data from medical examiners, didn't want to count snowbirds in death statistics (don't know if that's still going on or not) and the shitshow behind their dashboard, but given the difficulty in navigating the CDC's website for other cause of death, I don't want to make a bold proclamation.

This is a lie and has been debunked

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Donger

Okay, so maybe they were illegals. I don't see why that would cause you to not wear a mask.

You completely missed the point of the previously linked post. AMERICANS are largely doing what's necessary, and from what I've seen with my own two eyes, is that effort is largely being threatened by a community comprised mostly by non-Americans, or products thereof.



There's no crusade to go on against a small minority of Americans who don't want to wear a mask. The VAST MAJORITY are doing what's necessary. I see it every damn day. There is a much larger problem that the country is sticking their head in the sand about. Y'all are choosing the wrong battle here.