***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

3000 deaths per day by June 1st

That's what we got told wasn't it? I think they were just a bit off the mark.

[Mecca]

Those numbers keep getting changed though, it isn't like it's in some static vacuum, remember the one that said 68K total for the whole thing? That was way off too, shit happens.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Those numbers keep getting changed though, it isn't like it's in some static vacuum, remember the one that said 68K total for the whole thing? That was way off too, shit happens.

No, shit doesn't happen. The CDC used those numbers to scare everyone and weren't even ****ing close. And that was just what, 2 weeks ago? And "not even close" seems to be a pattern with all of these projections.

Internal CDC Models Project 3,000 Daily COVID Deaths by June 1
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...ths-by-june-1/

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

No, shit doesn't happen. The CDC used those numbers to scare everyone and weren't even ****ing close. And that was just what, 2 weeks ago? And "not even close" seems to be a pattern with all of these projections.

CDC? I thought that number came from leaked internal administration briefings that weren't complete.

Yes:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/04/coro...y-by-june.html

[srvy]

[QUOTE=Kidd Lex;14991060]Pete **** off. Find another hobby, the adults are talking.[/QUOTE]

Says Kidd Lex

[sedated]

Originally Posted by petegz28

No, shit doesn't happen. The CDC used those numbers to scare everyone and weren't even ****ing close. And that was just what, 2 weeks ago? And "not even close" seems to be a pattern with all of these projections.

What sort of delusional world do you live (dumb question, I know) in where everyone was scared because of the f-ing projections? People were scared because of actual numbers that came from countries that got hit before the US. I don't recall a single MENTION of projections in a single conversation I was a part of. They had nothing to do with anything.

And yet that has become the battle cry of a certain set of people - if the projections are wrong (in any way), then its proof the government is lying to control the people.

Do you wear a tin foil hat and scream at the weather guy after they predict a storm and it doesn't happen?

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by petegz28

No, shit doesn't happen. The CDC used those numbers to scare everyone and weren't even ****ing close. And that was just what, 2 weeks ago? And "not even close" seems to be a pattern with all of these projections.

Internal CDC Models Project 3,000 Daily COVID Deaths by June 1
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...ths-by-june-1/

They got the minimum 100k deaths projection right after many said that was way off.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by sedated

What sort of delusional world do you live (dumb question, I know) in where everyone was scared because of the f-ing projections? People were scared because of actual numbers that came from countries that got hit before the US. I don't recall a single MENTION of projections in a single conversation I was a part of. They had nothing to do with anything.

And yet that has become the battle cry of a certain set of people - if the projections are wrong (in any way), then its proof the government is lying to control the people.

Okay, the projections had absolutely nothing to do with anything....go it. I didn't realize you being involved in the conversation was the determining factor. Good to know.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

They got the minimum 100k deaths projection right after many said that was way off.

You mean when it was glaringly obvious it was going to happen? I guess.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by lewdog

They got the minimum 100k deaths projection right after many said that was way off.

Yes, they did, thankfully on the lower side. And they projected that two months ago. DaFace had a nice graphic to prove it, too.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by petegz28

You mean when it was glaringly obvious it was going to happen? I guess.

Back in March when half this board said that 100k deaths wasn’t possible you mean?

Keep making shit up.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

They got the minimum 100k deaths projection right after many said that was way off.

Lew, I am just glad this one didn't get a lot of hoopla or we would all have to wear those little baggie things on our shoes the HVAC guy wears when he comes in your house...

CDC: COVID-19 Can Spread 13 Feet, Travel on Shoes
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...ravel-on-shoes

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Back in March when half this board said that 100k deaths wasn’t possible you mean?

Keep making shit up.

Okay .....seems to be about what they do. And by March did you mean May?

This was published on May 16th

CDC chief Redfield predicts coronavirus deaths to top 100,000 in June
The head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) warned Friday that the U.S. is likely to top 100,000 coronavirus deaths by the start of June -- citing a dozen forecasting models that make the grim prediction.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cdc...ths-top-100000

[petegz28]

I'll cut the CDC some slack..CNN had the story on the 15th of May...

US coronavirus deaths to surpass 100,000 by June 1, CDC director says
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/15/healt...day/index.html

[srvy]

Originally Posted by Kidd Lex

Every post nearly every day since March 29, 2020, in Non-Political Covid 19 thread except a brief flirtation with My Dreams thread. Obsess much?