***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Anyone who may have been in these places is asked to please monitor for symptoms, including fever, cough, shortness of breath, body aches, headache, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, and loss of taste or smell.

If you develop symptoms, please contact your physician, and isolate until test results are known.

I mean, shouldn't everyone be doing this anyway? And when did vomiting and diarrhea become Covid symptoms?

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

I mean, shouldn't everyone be doing this anyway? And when did vomiting and diarrhea become Covid symptoms?

They added it a while ago vomiting was one of the latest ones I think. Pretty much can mess up your whole body but makes it hard to diagnosis yourself , and people don't have a tendency to wear a mask because of some diarrhea or self isolate which makes sense normally.

[limested]

Fortunately didn’t lose too much strength while locked in house.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

I mean, shouldn't everyone be doing this anyway? And when did vomiting and diarrhea become Covid symptoms?

It’s been on there as symptoms for close to 2 months. One of the people I know who had symptoms out to 14 days had about 7 days of diarrhea during the middle of her fight.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by limested

Fortunately didn’t lose too much strength while locked in house.

What lift you doing?

Full body shrugs

[limested]

Originally Posted by lewdog

What lift you doing?

Full body shrugs

Was last set of shrugs. And no, not full body. 😀 only got 6 in before hands gave out and power grips almost ripped through my wrists. :P

[Donger]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

So you think New York had 30k deaths at the end of March? Or perhaps that no one has been infected since the end of March? These numbers don’t make sense. Your deaths need to be whatever it was at the end of March (or perhaps ten days or so into April) divided by 2,000,000.

Apologies, yes that's correct.

By mid-April, they had 12,800 deaths. .64%

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by limested

Was last set of shrugs. And no, not full body. 😀 only got 6 in before hands gave out and power grips almost ripped through my wrists. :P

Don't skip leg day bro.

[limested]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Don't skip leg day bro.

Never do. Only thing is can’t go crazy because of knee and Achilles injuries.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by limested

Fortunately didn’t lose too much strength while locked in house.

Like, with your main hand, or your off hand?

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by limested

Never do. Only thing is can’t go crazy because of knee and Achilles injuries.

All I can do is leg stuff lol, nerve damage in my neck and bugling disks I have the grip strength of a 85 year old.

I just bought a road bike a I think ill try that out for a while, exercise without competition sucks, can't play hockey /tennis anymore so I need to find something else.

[limested]

Originally Posted by Monticore

All I can do is leg stuff lol, nerve damage in my neck and bugling disks I have the grip strength of a 85 year old.

I just bought a road bike a I think ill try that out for a while, exercise without competition sucks, can't play hockey /tennis anymore so I need to find something else.

I have two bulging discs, L4:L5 and L5:S1. Hard to get out of bed some mornings.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by limested

I have two bulging discs, L4:L5 and L5:S1. Hard to get out of bed some mornings.

I have naturally fused L5-S1 so I have bugles at higher up it has been good for the last 5 years , my C8 Radiculopathy is the main problem, chronic neck pain spasms etc plus shoulder issues from work , sucks getting old.

[Naptown Chief]

Originally Posted by limested

I have two bulging discs, L4:L5 and L5:S1. Hard to get out of bed some mornings.

Originally Posted by Monticore

I have naturally fused L5-S1 so I have bugles at higher up it has been good for the last 5 years , my C8 Radiculopathy is the main problem, chronic neck pain spasms etc plus shoulder issues from work , sucks getting old.

I feel for you guys. Herniated C5-8 with nerve damage, T4-5, and L3-S1. Bulges throughout. Fused left SI joint (right is going to need to be done soon). I'm finally having my L3-S1 RFAs on Wednesday after them being postponed 4 months. The procedure they did to see if it'd work did give me relief for like 36 hours, so here's hoping I'll get some lasting relief.

Of all my spinal shit going on sciatica, by a large margin, is the worst of it. **** it with an AIDS dick.. Best of luck to you both

[Naptown Chief]

Originally Posted by Monticore

All I can do is leg stuff lol, nerve damage in my neck and bugling disks I have the grip strength of a 85 year old.

I just bought a road bike a I think ill try that out for a while, exercise without competition sucks, can't play hockey /tennis anymore so I need to find something else.

At this point my arms look like a Holocaust victim's. For 2 years I wasn't allowed to lift more than 10 lbs. I'm now up to a whopping 30 :flex: