***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Prison Bitch]

People actually believed in “lockdowns” until last week lollers

[KurtCobain]

Since finding out I needed to get tested I've assumed either I dodged the bullet or I am somebody who shows no symptoms, but suddenly I'm not doing too good.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by KurtCobain

Since finding out I needed to get tested I've assumed either I dodged the bullet or I am somebody who shows no symptoms, but suddenly I'm not doing too good.

What's going on?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by KurtCobain

Since finding out I needed to get tested I've assumed either I dodged the bullet or I am somebody who shows no symptoms, but suddenly I'm not doing too good.

Dude, you not feeling good or what?

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by lewdog

New outbreak of Ebola kills 4 in Congo.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.blo...-minister-says

Ebolaids-19 is coming.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Lzen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUD_...ature=youtu.be

This doctor takes apart the recent study published in The Lancet. Now I know some people will just say this is one person, blah, blah. But that's not what I'm looking for here. I want the arrogant people who are so sure that Hydroxychloriquine will not work against COVID 19 to explain to me where he is wrong, where all of the people that signed a letter questioning the study got it wrong, etc. Now I admit that I am not educated in this area but this person sounds to me as though he is very educated with these things. This doctor says he no longer has faith in The Lancet due to this being published. Is he wrong? Why? Let's hear it.

And for those of you who say that you only trust science and want to learn and educate yourselves, will you watch this and learn some things? Or will you just ignore this and continue to be led by people who may not have your best interests in mind?

He starts by asking for something that is in the works--an RCT. The WHO, your boogeyman, is conducting a five-armed RCT right now called the SOLIDARITY Trial. The very trial that he's asking for just stopped recruitment in the hydroxychloroquine arm due to concerns over safety and efficacy--that is--they are stopping early because the results are so bad that it is likely not worth continuing.

With that said, observational trials are not "bad science" as he claims. That shows a complete misunderstanding of what science is. Observational trials have limitations, and those limitations are greater than one finds in an RCT. That's why we strive for RCTs. But in cases where we don't yet have the time, funding, or ability to initiate and compile the data for said RCTs, observational trials still have value, and several of them together, have greater value.

The errors in the Lancet study that were caught are an indication of the value of peer review. While it would be nice to have a perfect study, those of us that look at these often will tell you that there is no such thing, which is why they are looked over in such exacting detail given the consequences. Those errors are also comparatively minor and did not affect the underlying conclusions or hazard ratios in any meaningful fashion.

If you don't believe the Lancet study, then you are more than welcome to look at studies published in the New England Journal and JAMA, each of which had thousands of patients enrolled and found no benefit to hydroxychloroquine use.

Or, you can use Raoult's study with 22 people with mysterious attrition in six and no control group or Peak Prosperity.

By the way, here is your "source" talking about bad science:

https://www.peakprosperity.com/bombs...uci-connected/

A conspiracy theorist website claiming that Fauci could be connected to the creation of SARS-CoV-2 in a lab, urging its visitors to invest in gold. Taco John would be proud.

But yeah, we're the arrogant ones, not the guy who has no ****ing clue what he's talking about, tutting-tutting this bullshit.

[KurtCobain]

Originally Posted by TLO

What's going on?

I'm not having any trouble breathing or anything like that. However, I've had a headache all day that's getting continually worse. I didn't think anything of it because I get headaches sometimes. Then I checked my temperature and it's pretty ****ing high. I haven't ran a temperature to my knowledge in over 10 years.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by KurtCobain

I'm not having any trouble breathing or anything like that. However, I've had a headache all day that's getting continually worse. I didn't think anything of it because I get headaches sometimes. Then I checked my temperature and it's pretty ****ing high. I haven't ran a temperature to my knowledge in over 10 years.

What's it running? Have you had your test yet?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by KurtCobain

I'm not having any trouble breathing or anything like that. However, I've had a headache all day that's getting continually worse. I didn't think anything of it because I get headaches sometimes. Then I checked my temperature and it's pretty ****ing high. I haven't ran a temperature to my knowledge in over 10 years.

I know you were concerned about money earlier, so this isn't the most palatable, but it's worth getting checked out.

If you're febrile (over 100.4), you should make an appointment at urgent care. Describe your symptoms, your exposure, and they'll likely order a test for you.

I don't want to scare you, but there are people that are walking around normal whose oxygenation levels are at an unhealthy level. They call them healthy hypoxemics.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by KurtCobain

I'm not having any trouble breathing or anything like that. However, I've had a headache all day that's getting continually worse. I didn't think anything of it because I get headaches sometimes. Then I checked my temperature and it's pretty ****ing high. I haven't ran a temperature to my knowledge in over 10 years.

You were tested already, correct?

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I know you were concerned about money earlier, so this isn't the most palatable, but it's worth getting checked out.

If you're febrile (over 100.4), you should make an appointment at urgent care. Describe your symptoms, your exposure, and they'll likely order a test for you.

I don't want to scare you, but there are people that are walking around normal whose oxygenation levels are at an unhealthy level. They call them healthy hypoxemics.

Speaking of this, I finally found my pulse oximeter at work. It’s at home now in safe keeping for this COVID shit.

[ChiliConCarnage]

Originally Posted by KurtCobain

I'm not having any trouble breathing or anything like that. However, I've had a headache all day that's getting continually worse. I didn't think anything of it because I get headaches sometimes. Then I checked my temperature and it's pretty ****ing high. I haven't ran a temperature to my knowledge in over 10 years.

Take a few Tylenol, get a good night's rest. If there are still problems in the morning, I can log back in as Ubeja and start posting to make your real life issues seem trivial.

[Jesus Christ]

Originally Posted by eDave

Satan's going to get banned.

Yeah, because banning that guy worked out so great for my dad.

[Spott]

Originally Posted by Jesus Christ

Yeah, because banning that guy worked out so great for my dad.

[KurtCobain]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I know you were concerned about money earlier, so this isn't the most palatable, but it's worth getting checked out.

If you're febrile (over 100.4), you should make an appointment at urgent care. Describe your symptoms, your exposure, and they'll likely order a test for you.

I don't want to scare you, but there are people that are walking around normal whose oxygenation levels are at an unhealthy level. They call them healthy hypoxemics.

I went and got tested this morning. My other roommates who were exposed to this guy got tested as well. They said about three days until I'll get the results. I'm running 101.2 as of right now. If I start to have any other symptoms I may look into options but right now I'm just staying separated from anybody and staying hydrated.