***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by sedated

That, even with minimal risk, they can pass it on to loved ones who are at a greater risk?

Also, it doesn't save all its serious harm for just retirees. Here's a healthy woman in her 20s who had to have a double lung transplant because of COVID damage: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...N9O1oLIuO6ZOZw

That rhetoric can be as dangerous as "anyone who dies shouldn't have gotten so fat"

Yes, they can. Those people should be sheltered in the mean time.

You can also retire by winning the powerball. There will be isolated rare cases of anything.

[loochy]

I can assure you that the surge has absolutely nothing to do with nasty folk marching around on the streets for hours on end in ass to crotch fashion with no masks while yelling and shouting at the tops of their lungs. Only white people at Ozark swimming pools and people at Florida beaches are behind this.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ses-in-us.html

And I nailed it and that includes more testing.
I appreciate you bringing that up.

Now that you have egg on your face let the games of moving the goal post and asking a million questions begin.

You only nailed yourself. Well done. Exquisite aim:

Can't be! I heard once restrictions were reduce it would spike!

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by loochy

I can assure you that the surge has absolutely nothing to do with nasty folk marching around on the streets for hours on end in ass to crotch fashion with no masks while yelling and shouting at the tops of their lungs.

The surge has to do with a bunch of idiocy from every side, I don't understand why it always has to be about left and right.

There are a bunch of morons on every side, we've now had protests from both sides, idiots that don't wear masks from both sides.

Americans are reeruns is this hard to accept?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Yea, she has a shoddy immune system hence why she's flipped out. As numbers rise and the school wants them back in person her anxiety level isn't great, and she's not a small child she's 16.

Olathe is talking about having in-person classes and virtual for those who choose. If she has an immune disorder hopefully she will have a virtual option.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by loochy

I can assure you that the surge has absolutely nothing to do with nasty folk marching around on the streets for hours on end in ass to crotch fashion with no masks while yelling and shouting at the tops of their lungs.

I have zero doubt that their actions have/will lead to more cases. This virus doesn't care about your politics or causes.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Donger

You only nailed yourself. Well done. Exquisite aim:

Can't be! I heard once restrictions were reduce it would spike!

And they have not per the CDC. Thanks!

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by sedated

That, even with minimal risk, they can pass it on to loved ones who are at a greater risk?

Also, it doesn't save all its serious harm for just retirees. Here's a healthy woman in her 20s who had to have a double lung transplant because of COVID damage: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...N9O1oLIuO6ZOZw

That rhetoric can be as dangerous as "anyone who dies shouldn't have gotten so fat"

I thought there was a study that said kids are very low risk for shedding?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

And they have not per the CDC. Thanks!

I don't know what you're going on about, but I'm sure you're wrong. We are seeing increases in areas that opened up.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Olathe is talking about having in-person classes and virtual for those who choose. If she has an immune disorder hopefully she will have a virtual option.

Yea well I live in Missouri in school district that doesn't have the greatest reputation of making good decisions...

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by loochy

I can assure you that the surge has absolutely nothing to do with nasty folk marching around on the streets for hours on end in ass to crotch fashion with no masks while yelling and shouting at the tops of their lungs.

Of course not because it hasn't been 2 weeks. I mean it has been longer but it hasn't been 2 weeks since that time or something. In other words just wait 2 weeks.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Yea well I live in Missouri in school district that doesn't have the greatest reputation of making good decisions...

If you're referring to the KC school district I have one word for you, "MOVE"!

I went to KC schools and that district is literally one of the worst in the country.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Donger

I don't know what you're going on about, but I'm sure you're wrong. We are seeing increases in areas that opened up.

Some are, some aren't. As a nation they are down with an increase in testing. That's a fact, Jack.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by petegz28

If you're referring to the KC school district I have one word for you, "MOVE"!

I went to KC schools and that district is literally one of the worst in the country.

I don't live in the KC school district.....I live in the Fort Osage school district and frankly it's not great.

[BigCatDaddy]

BTW In person summer school starts back here in 3 weeks. I'll be interested to see the numbers. It is a month later than normal, but I don't anticipate a drop off.