***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[WhawhaWhat]

Mercedes Benz Superdome announces that an astounding 11.6% of workers — 32 of the 275 — renovating the building have tested positive for the Coronavirus.

— Darren Rovell (@darrenrovell) June 16, 2020

[eDave]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I told all you dumb ****s last month but no one cared to listen.

It's the Roaring 20's out there.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers

misrepresentation (lie) of why they were admitted.

What evidence do you have that this has taken place?

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Donger

What evidence do you have that this has taken place?

It all goes back to Dr's getting paid more for Covid diagnosis', and all that bullshit.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

looks like dallas had over 70% of their ICU bed capacity taken up as recently as a couple weeks ago, cant find anything more current...

I read somewhere that most hospitals ICU`s in normal times before Covid run at around 60% capacity.

[Shiver Me Timbers]

Originally Posted by Donger

What evidence do you have that this has taken place?

Personal discussions with close friend who is a lead of surgery at one of the largest Hospitals in Denver and voted for Hill Billary.

What evidence do you have it is not happening?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers

Personal discussions with close friend who is a lead of surgery at one of the largest Hospitals in Denver and voted for Hill Billary.

What evidence do you have it is not happening?

What was/is the motivation for doing so, based on this anecdotal evidence?

I don't have any evidence to show it isn't happening. Of course, I also have no evidence that it isn't being spread by 5G.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I told all you dumb ****s last month but no one cared to listen.

Where's the problem?

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/...states/arizona

[Shiver Me Timbers]

Originally Posted by Donger

What was/is the motivation for doing so, based on this anecdotal evidence?

I don't have any evidence to show it isn't happening. Of course, I also have no evidence that it isn't being spread by 5G.

Dong
you are actually pretty entertaining most of the time.
motive=$$$.
Did not mention 5G. do not know what you are referencing.
I don't wear a tinfoil hat either.

The feds guaranteed $$$ for covid treatment to hospitals for the uninsured. peeps with insurance still gotta pay the deductible. Hospitals were not asking for insurance info when the word "covid" was mentioned. Yes my friend discussed this.



Carry On/.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Donger

Where's the problem?

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/...states/arizona

Arizona

Cases: The 7-day avg. shot up yet again. This is the highest number of positive cases added in a single day. (Likely catching up from weekend lag)

Testing: PCR testing is up by a couple thousand tests over yesterday. (Likely catching up from weekend lag)

Spread: Overall PCR positive test percentage ticked up again from 8.5% to 8.7% (based on 354K tests, up from a 6.6% low) and the average for this week is 21%. (Be aware this is only based on 269 cases. Total cases for a week are usually between 40K and 50K. Highly likely to fall tomorrow.) EDIT: Or maybe not.

Hospital Utilization: Hospitalizations are up by 4%. Overall ICU usage dropped to 80%, but ICU beds for COVID patients hit all time high. Ventilators in use for COVID also hit all time high.

[Donger]

#COVID19 case counts in Maricopa County are now over 20,000, with 1,377 cases reported yesterday, our highest number yet. We want to break the chain of transmission, not records for #coronavirus . Let's #MaskUpAZ keep #6feetapart and #SlowTheSpread. pic.twitter.com/xStAhjAt3m

— Public Health (@Maricopahealth) June 16, 2020

[Donger]

Originally Posted by eDave

Arizona

Cases: The 7-day avg. shot up yet again. This is the highest number of positive cases added in a single day. (Likely catching up from weekend lag)

Testing: PCR testing is up by a couple thousand tests over yesterday. (Likely catching up from weekend lag)

Spread: Overall PCR positive test percentage ticked up again from 8.5% to 8.7% (based on 354K tests, up from a 6.6% low) and the average for this week is 21%. (Be aware this is only based on 269 cases. Total cases for a week are usually between 40K and 50K. Highly likely to fall tomorrow.) EDIT: Or maybe not.

Hospital Utilization: Hospitalizations are up by 4%. Overall ICU usage dropped to 80%, but ICU beds for COVID patients hit all time high. Ventilators in use for COVID also hit all time high.

I was being facetious. That graph shows positivity going from 5% to almost 20%

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers

Dong
you are actually pretty entertaining most of the time.
motive=$$$.
Did not mention 5G. do not know what you are referencing.
I don't wear a tinfoil hat either.

The feds guaranteed $$$ for covid treatment to hospitals for the uninsured. peeps with insurance still gotta pay the deductible. Hospitals were not asking for insurance info when the word "covid" was mentioned. Yes my friend discussed this.



Carry On/.

Here you go:

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...D-19-payments/

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers

Dong
you are actually pretty entertaining most of the time.
motive=$$$.
Did not mention 5G. do not know what you are referencing.
I don't wear a tinfoil hat either.

The feds guaranteed $$$ for covid treatment to hospitals for the uninsured. peeps with insurance still gotta pay the deductible. Hospitals were not asking for insurance info when the word "covid" was mentioned. Yes my friend discussed this.



Carry On/.

You're "lead surgeon" friend also works in the administrative side in admitting?

[Donger]

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott announced a new record high for daily coronavirus cases in the Lone Star State.

He attributed the increase in positive cases to an assisted living facility in Collin County near Dallas, as well the delayed reporting of numbers from Hays County near Austin.

Abbott said the state will see an increase of 2,622 cases on Tuesday, surpassing the previous record high of 2,504 on June 10.

And while the hospitalization rate has been increasing, Abbott expressed confidence in the state's capacity, with 14,933 beds available. The number of hospitalized coronavirus patients has been above 2,000 for the past week, with a record high of 2,518 reported on Tuesday.

"Even though there are more people hospitalized, we still remain at the lowest threat level to our hospital capacity," he said.

Still, the governor urged Texans to be diligent about wearing masks, washing hands, and practicing social distance measures.

"We just want to double down in reminding everybody that these things that we learned over March and April in May, they still have to be practiced, because Covid-19 hasn't suddenly magically left the state of Texas," he said.

The governor also reported that some counties are seeing a sharp increase in positive tests among people under the age 30, suggesting that could be a result of looser restrictions at bars and Memorial Day gatherings. Abbott said the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission warned this week that bars and restaurants must adhere to state safety protocols or face liquor license suspensions.

"There have been pictures that I have seen and others have seen about these bar type settings where it clearly the standards are not being followed. I think enforcement's by TABC should bring these types of settings more into line," he said.

Abbott also said the increase in positive tests may start to decline now that Texas has tested "well over a majority" of jails and prisons, which he said have returned the highest positivity rate in the state.

"So now that we have gotten through most of those types of congregate settings, there is reason to believe that those testing positive — the number of those testing positive — should begin to decline a little bit," he said.