***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Interesting, just linking pics from other pages...

Am I reading that last graphic right that they are currently UNDER normal occupancy?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Am I reading that last graphic right that they are currently UNDER normal occupancy?

You are not.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

You are not.

Yep, sorry, eyes played tricks on me....I thought it said occupancy but it said capacity.....

[petegz28]

Either way it looks like they are far from being overrun in any way....

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Either way it looks like they are far from being overrun in any way....

They will basically fill up their 'sustainable surge' capacity once they double their Covid cases (assuming the non-Covid cases stay about the same).

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

They will basically fill up their 'sustainable surge' capacity once they double their Covid cases (assuming the non-Covid cases stay about the same).

You say that as if it's a given. Do we know for sure their Covid cases will double? Aside from their projections I mean.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by petegz28

You say that as if it's a given. Do we know for sure their Covid cases will double?

No, better said on my part had I used "They would basically fill up...".

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

No, better said on my part had I used "They would basically fill up...".

[srvy]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It was a joke, relax.

Where is the joke you pos.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Alright sorry, I was just playing around at Pete being dense.

Yeah right all you are is the flipside of him. Go stare at a game and mush your brain some more.

[srvy]

Mecca is the mods cat with a thousand lives. Rules for all except mecca he is special.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

If you wanted herd immunity, the likelihood of it with the protests and people not taking the virus seriously is pretty high now. Spikes in cases can be attributed to both I’m sure.

People who can’t math think we are close to herd immunity.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by lewdog

28,000 beds man!

/Bleeding Red

Lmao again you have no clue what you are talking about. TMC is big but it is one of MANY chain hospital systems here.


https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/...alth-care.html Here is an example

Just Harris county, where Houston is located has 80 hospitals

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

People who can’t math think we are close to herd immunity.

You really wanna math? I don't do this to be cold but I do it to be rational...

Number of Covid cases in the US = .7% of our total population

Number of Covid deaths in the US = .03% of our total population


Now on a rational basis we shut down our entire country for something that is effecting < 1% of our population and killing less < .05% of our population


Now, the raw numbers are nothing to balk at and are serious and we need to treat them as such. But overall the "math" certainly provides a certain perspective.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

This shit has got me feeling depressed again. We as a country aren't going to collectively wear masks. We aren't going to continue to social distance. We pretty much seem ****ed.

808 new deaths today. Less than yesterday and less than Wednesday one week ago. Breathe, bro.....