***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Donger

The former:

PHOENIX — With viral outbreaks continuing, Gov. Doug Ducey on Monday put off the start of school, closed bars, movie theaters and gyms, and issued new restrictions on swimming pools.

The closures go into effect today, Monday, June 29, at 8 p.m.

They opened movie theaters back up? WTF? They haven't even opened up here?

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

This isn't surprising in the least. Letting them open back up was a bad, bad idea.

Fun fact: AZ, TX, and FL all opened up early.

[tyecopeland]

Originally Posted by Donger

Don't stand to close to me...

****ing swipe keyboard always messes those two up.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Wait, so are they closed for 30 days or closing early for 30 days?

Closed for 30 days starting tonight.

This is what happens with citizens refuse to use basic precautions with this virus in large population areas.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by DaFace

My guess is that they assume people who are drunk off their asses aren't very good at social distancing.

Minnesota has pinpointed bars as the source of hundreds of infections , which lends some credence to the theory.

Interesting stat:

Protests following the May 25 police killing of George Floyd do not appear to have contributed as much as feared to the rise in cases among young adults.

Health officials worried about heightened risks of the virus spreading among people singing and shouting — and even gasping and coughing when tear gas was used to disperse crowds. On the other hand, outdoor air has proved an effective deterrent to virus transmission.

Free testing clinics in Minneapolis and St. Paul found a relatively low rate of infections — roughly 1.5% of the more than 7,700 demonstrators and others tested at these sites over the prior two weeks.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Closed for 30 days starting tonight.

This is what happens with citizens refuse to use basic precautions with this virus in large population areas.

I couldn't be happier that Bleachers near me is closed. They just didn't give af.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by tyecopeland

****ing swipe keyboard always messes those two up.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Donger

Interesting stat:

Protests following the May 25 police killing of George Floyd do not appear to have contributed as much as feared to the rise in cases among young adults.

Health officials worried about heightened risks of the virus spreading among people singing and shouting — and even gasping and coughing when tear gas was used to disperse crowds. On the other hand, outdoor air has proved an effective deterrent to virus transmission.

Free testing clinics in Minneapolis and St. Paul found a relatively low rate of infections — roughly 1.5% of the more than 7,700 demonstrators and others tested at these sites over the prior two weeks.

Makes sense. Therefore, we should close beaches and baseball.

[kgrund]

Originally Posted by eDave

Fun fact: AZ, TX, and FL all opened up early.

What is crazy is that NY still has over 35,000 active cases than those three states combined.

[007]

Originally Posted by petegz28

She didn't even give a timeline. Sounds like it was pretty off-the-cuff. Texas isn't on the quarantine list for KS yet we all need to wear masks and we aren't seeing any surges??? Again, just the same old shit.

That's what pisses me off. The way they are wording things, I fully expect her to say masks are required until a vaccine is available.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by 007

That's what pisses me off. The way they are wording things, I fully expect her to say masks are required until a vaccine is available.

While I understand the frustration, what difference does it make? They could give you a date, then extend, then extend, then extend.... The final result is the same.

[kgrund]

Originally Posted by loochy

Makes sense. Therefore, we should close beaches and baseball.

Yeah love how some of the mayors and governors lower the boom on any fun in the sun on the beaches despite many infectious disease experts saying that the beach, with this virus, could be one the safer places you could be be.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaFace

While I understand the frustration, what difference does it make? They could give you a date, then extend, then extend, then extend.... The final result is the same.

Because people want to hear a plan, not just off the cuff bullshit. Even the idiot Mayor in KC had a timeline he was talking about.

When you give a timeline or some other criteria it says you have thought this through and know what it is your are looking for. When you just say this is now the law without anything else it sounds like you are just doing shit to do it.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by 007

That's what pisses me off. The way they are wording things, I fully expect her to say masks are required until a vaccine is available.

I am too. She is a real piece of work. She punted everything to the localities then apparently when some weren't doing what her and her butt buddies wanted then she decided to be Queen again.

[petegz28]

Cases are up over 44k today but deaths look to be the same if not just a touch lower than last Monday. So the trend of increased cases and lower deaths is holding for the moment.