***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I have not heard that at all and I don't see any numbers justifying shutting down school. Let's put it this way...if you're going to allow mobs of people to run the streets you are going to have a hell of a time canceling school. I don't think people quite understand the domino effect of that scenario.

Who is allowing 'mobs' of people to run the streets?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by loochy

Oh. They're not overrun, exceeding capacity, with dead people lining the halls?

This was announced today. We tried to take Cushing to an Emergency type facility last year to save it from closing altogether. Now the Rona has forced it to be closed. Probably won't be the last closing you hear about in the KC area from Saint Luke's as well as others.

The reluctance to open up elective surgeries caused a lot of devastating to health systems in the area.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Arizona has a fairly old average population doesn't it?

58% of those hospitalized are under age 65 here.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Who is allowing 'mobs' of people to run the streets?

Our Governors....but don't believe what you see on TV. It's all CGI I am sure.

[BigBeauford]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Who is allowing 'mobs' of people to run the streets?

I would assume the constitution.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

58% of those hospitalized are under age 65 here.

I talked to my Dad who lives down there. He said a lot are being admitted but then sent home quickly. So it is spiking the numbers but the length of stay seems to be fairly short with most. Is that what you are seeing?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigBeauford

I would assume the constitution.

Safety first......yep and I will stop there. We can have a political discussion on it in DC if you'd like.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by lewdog

58% of those hospitalized are under age 65 here.

How does that compare with the demographics of whatever "here" is (city, county, state)?

[Donger]

https://www.health.harvard.edu/disea...he-coronavirus

How soon after I'm infected with the new coronavirus will I start to be contagious?

The time from exposure to symptom onset (known as the incubation period) is thought to be three to 14 days, though symptoms typically appear within four or five days after exposure.

We know that a person with COVID-19 may be contagious 48 to 72 hours before starting to experience symptoms. Emerging research suggests that people may actually be most likely to spread the virus to others during the 48 hours before they start to experience symptoms.

If true, this strengthens the case for face masks, physical distancing, and contact tracing, all of which can help reduce the risk that someone who is infected but not yet contagious may unknowingly infect others.

[Discuss Thrower]

"Results from a difference-in-differences model applied to data from a sample of US cities that gained new professional sports teams over the period 1962-2016 show that the presence of games in these cities increased local influenza mortality by between 4% and 24%, depending on sport, relative to cities with no professional sports teams and relative to mortality in those cities before a new team arrived. Influenza mortality fell in cities with teams in some years when work stoppages occurred in sports leagues."

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I talked to my Dad who lives down there. He said a lot are being admitted but then sent home quickly. So it is spiking the numbers but the length of stay seems to be fairly short with most. Is that what you are seeing?

Im literally reading hospital data from this morning. It’s on azdhs.gov. It’s current and says 58% of current hospitalizations are under 65 years old.

/facts

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by loochy

How does that compare with the demographics of whatever "here" is (city, county, state)?

This is hospital data from the state of Arizona.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Im literally reading hospital data from this morning. It’s on azdhs.gov. It’s current and says 58% of current hospitalizations are under 65 years old.

/facts

Indeed. But to Pete's defense, that's not what he asked. He asked about length of stay. Pete, it's probably a bit premature to be able to determine a meaningful length of stay number for this case spike.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Im literally reading hospital data from this morning. It’s on azdhs.gov. It’s current and says 58% of current hospitalizations are under 65 years old.



/facts

Great. But that's not what I asked. /facts

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[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Monticore

What do you think the results would have been telling black people that they can't protest against racial injustice?

I don't think that makes a point you want to support.