***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[displacedinMN]

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

I live in an 80% Hispanic neighborhood and we're always towards the top in positive cases in the city. Its fairly common to see 3, sometimes 4 generations of family either living in the same house or on the same block with regular gatherings. Add in divorced households and you have upwards of 20 people crossing paths at kid swap drop off times.



Also people point and laugh at white guy toxic masculinity but Hispanic males seem to be constantly maxing out their masculinity and mask wearing doesn't really fit into that, at least around here.

It's hit or miss here. I have been doing a variety of home improvement projects, so Home Depot has been a bit of a second home lately. On the one hand, you do see a lot of Hispanic men without masks. But you also see many who do since they are used to wearing them for their jobs (lots of painters and carpenters for example).

It would be fascinating to see a poll about mask wearing. It's obvious we'd see big differences across political affiliations, but I'm sure there are others that would be surprising.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Late to the party, but **** it seems like not long ago some dumbass said that certainly was not happening.

No, dumb ass, you were saying people in Leawood were intentionally trying to get it. Stop acting like you said something about this when you didn't even know about it.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaFace

It's hit or miss here. I have been doing a variety of home improvement projects, so Home Depot has been a bit of a second home lately. On the one hand, you do see a lot of Hispanic men without masks. But you also see many who do since they are used to wearing them for their jobs (lots of painters and carpenters for example).

It would be fascinating to see a poll about mask wearing. It's obvious we'd see big differences across political affiliations, but I'm sure there are others that would be surprising.

I have a friend who runs a construction crew and he has said that the hispanics have acted like Covid never existed. Take it for what it's worth.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by DaFace

It's hit or miss here. I have been doing a variety of home improvement projects, so Home Depot has been a bit of a second home lately. On the one hand, you do see a lot of Hispanic men without masks. But you also see many who do since they are used to wearing them for their jobs (lots of painters and carpenters for example).

It would be fascinating to see a poll about mask wearing. It's obvious we'd see big differences across political affiliations, but I'm sure there are others that would be surprising.

Same with the home projects and visits to Home Depot. Feel the more legit crews have a higher rate of mask wearing, the groups hanging in the parking lot looking for work, not so much. Picked up some stuff there yesterday and the security guy at the exit thanked us for wearing our masks, which are supposed to be mandated for shopping indoors here. Its truly bizarre how few seem to be wearing them.

On a lighter note, got my first haircut in 4 months yesterday. Got a nice little farmers tan going on my head.

[BigCatDaddy]

Wasn't aware telling Governors to get ****ed was an option.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lea...jGF5TvdowAIKj0

[BigCatDaddy]

Don't take it too personally Lew.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Wasn't aware telling Governors to get ****ed was an option.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lea...jGF5TvdowAIKj0

Yes the counties can opt out. Miami, Leavenworth and some others have done just that.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

I live in an 80% Hispanic neighborhood and we're always towards the top in positive cases in the city. Its fairly common to see 3, sometimes 4 generations of family either living in the same house or on the same block with regular gatherings. Add in divorced households and you have upwards of 20 people crossing paths at kid swap drop off times.

Also people point and laugh at white guy toxic masculinity but Hispanic males seem to be constantly maxing out their masculinity and mask wearing doesn't really fit into that, at least around here.

Hispanic males definitely have an issue with masculinity.

My friend was unfortunate enough to be in the middle a chicken bus duel in Guatemala - where two drivers were being hyper-aggressive with each other - flooring it up hills, passing blind, bluffing like they were going to run each other off the road - never mind all the passengers on each bus.

Hispanic family life though imo is such a huge positive for them in any context other than covid. Living in LA for 21 years - I've always been envious of how tight their extended families seem to be.

However I think it might be largely a Catholic thing. My Irish-Catholic grandmother was the exact same way. Her dream was for there to be another depression and her 7 kids would all have to move back into one big house with her. When I was studying Spanish I realized there were so many similarities with Irish Catholics - first son goes to the seminary, first daughter is namd Mary Theresa, every kid has a nickname they go by instead of their real names.

[KCUnited]

Yep, around here its either mad flexing due to gang culture or a skewed vision of Americana. Big trucks, cowboy boots, Budweiser, Marlboro, and siring an entire soccer team.

[Donger]

The border with Mexico (and Canada) has been and remains closed to non-essentials.

[BleedingRed]

Hydroxychloroquine

[TLO]

I feel like we're going to get some very positive news regarding vaccines in the near future.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by TLO

I feel like we're going to get some very positive news regarding vaccines in the near future.

I’m positive I’m not taking it for first 7 years....

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by TLO

I feel like we're going to get some very positive news regarding vaccines in the near future.

Elaborate.