***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by eDave

I won't be keeping it.

[KS Smitty]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I’ll be adding to the positive soon.

Nasal congestion, fatigue and complete loss of smell/taste on Saturday. I got swabbed today.

So is this a new infection, re-infection or a relapse from the first infection? Is there any way to tell?

Also curious how OTWP has faired the last few weeks, has anybody heard?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I’ll be adding to the positive soon.

Nasal congestion, fatigue and complete loss of smell/taste on Saturday. I got swabbed today.

So your first positive is a false positive? Or you have a sinus infection? Seriously, the only time I lost my sense of taste and smell was when I had the absolute worst sinus infection I have ever had. Lasted over a week.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by Donger

SAN FRANCISCO (KGO) -- Gov. Gavin Newsom ordered several sectors to once again shut down Monday amid an increasingly concerning coronavirus surge.

Bars, both indoor and outdoor, will be forced to close down statewide. Restaurants are being told to cease indoor operations. Outdoor dining and takeout are still allowed.

All counties also have to close indoor operations at wineries, tasting rooms, movie theaters, family entertainment centers, zoos, museums and cardrooms.

In counties on the state's watch list, even more businesses are being required to close their doors. That includes gyms, hair salons, barbershops, nail salons, other personal care services, indoor malls, offices in non-critical sectors, and places of worship.

Who will enforce these mandates?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Who will enforce these mandates?

He has a "Strike Team"

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by eDave

I can support that notion as I have worked from home for a considerable amount of time and collaboration is sorely missed. But one year of it certainly isn't screwing anyone. It screws the parents, which is the angle I presume he is coming from.

When I said kids are screwed it is simply because I believe they need interaction with others outside the immediate family for social growth. I have also read that "distance learning" isnt even close to matching how and what kids learn in the classroom with again, face to face dialogue with instructors and fellow students. On the other hand, I wont miss my daughters health class last year that tried to teach the 100 different genders and other wild ass bullshit that probably isnt necessary to be "taught" in schools but I digress. Also as others have mentioned there is a number of kids whose safest 6-8 hours of the day is while at school because their homes are ****ed up with dysfunctional parents and/or siblings. Just my opinion

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by KS Smitty

So is this a new infection, re-infection or a relapse from the first infection? Is there any way to tell?

Also curious how OTWP has faired the last few weeks, has anybody heard?

Seems he's doing what any of us would do after surviving covid

https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost...postcount=2252

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by petegz28

So your first positive is a false positive? Or you have a sinus infection? Seriously, the only time I lost my sense of taste and smell was when I had the absolute worst sinus infection I have ever had. Lasted over a week.

That’s a good question. I had a positive swab in May but no symptoms. I’m inconclusive on antibodies 6 weeks later. Maybe it was a false positive?

I’ve never had a sinus infection in my life. I’ve also never completely lost my taste and smell. It’s incredibly weird. I was drinking hot sauce and couldn’t even tell.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Who will enforce these mandates?

Hopefully the businesses will comply. I'd imagine that if they do not, various state and local agencies will step in.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by Donger

Hopefully the businesses will comply. I'd imagine that if they do not, various state and local agencies will step in.

Such as the police......that many large city mayors are in favor of defunding? Interesting times

[Donger]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Such as the police......that many large city mayors are in favor of defunding? Interesting times

Please keep your politics out of this thread. Thanks.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

That’s a good question. I had a positive swab in May but no symptoms. I’m inconclusive on antibodies 6 weeks later. Maybe it was a false positive?

I’ve never had a sinus infection in my life. I’ve also never completely lost my taste and smell. It’s incredibly weird. I was drinking hot sauce and couldn’t even tell.

I've had one really bad sinus infection. And I mean I was freaking. I thought the Zicam killed my taste and smell. I couldn't breathe for jack shit. I mean it sucked and lasted almost 10 days. Other than that I really don't get them.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by Donger

Please keep your politics out of this thread. Thanks.

I responded directly to your post quoting Gov Gavins mandates. Why is my question my "politics" and your Newsome post not?

If you cant answer the question, thats OK too

[Donger]

Florida with 12,624 new cases.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by jdubya

I responded directly to your post quoting Gov Gavins mandates. Why is my question my "politics" and your Newsome post not?

If you cant answer the question, thats OK too

You asked a leading question, to make a point about defunding police. That's political.