***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by KS Smitty

So is this a new infection, re-infection or a relapse from the first infection? Is there any way to tell?

Also curious how OTWP has faired the last few weeks, has anybody heard?

I'm mostly back to normal. Starting to log some miles on the bike again, which is nice.

Once or twice a week though - out of nowhere - I have days where I'm ridiculously fatigued. No rhyme or reason, not sure if it's related or not. Have a doc appt. back in STL in a few weeks to get checked out.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

Seems he's doing what any of us would do after surviving covid

https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost...postcount=2252

Damn right. Not like I can get it again, right?

*I still wear a mask in public areas, fyi

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Damn right. Not like I can get it again, right?

*I still wear a mask in public areas, fyi

Jury is out on the ability to get reinfected with how long “immunity” lasts. Still appears possible but rare. In a year from now, your prior illness could likely be meaningless and you’ll be just as susceptible.

Thanks for wearing a mask.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

Missouri hospital data is difficult to find, but it appears we've reached a number that is close to April/May numbers.

We haven't seen a spike locally - but it would be interesting to see where the rise is coming from.

Not in the kc area that I know of anyway

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[TLO]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Damn right. Not like I can get it again, right?

*I still wear a mask in public areas, fyi

Did you ever get an antibody test done?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Not in the kc area that I know of anyway

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Joplin area would be my guess? There's no data anywhere to prove that though. Not that I can find anyway.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by TLO

Joplin area would be my guess? There's no data anywhere to prove that though. Not that I can find anyway.

Could it also be Branson/Lake of the Ozarks area or St. Louis? Just a thought.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Coach

Could it also be Branson/Lake of the Ozarks area or St. Louis? Just a thought.

I'm unsure, but would appreciate it if anyone has any insight.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by TLO

I'm unsure, but would appreciate it if anyone has any insight.

Greene/Stone/Christian Counties (Springfield metro) 701 total cases.

Jasper/Newton 1338; City of Joplin 241.


Source

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

I'm mostly back to normal. Starting to log some miles on the bike again, which is nice.

Once or twice a week though - out of nowhere - I have days where I'm ridiculously fatigued. No rhyme or reason, not sure if it's related or not. Have a doc appt. back in STL in a few weeks to get checked out.

I decided to start biking after not having rode (ridden?) a bike in 25 years lol it’s painful.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by TLO

Missouri hospital data is difficult to find, but it appears we've reached a number that is close to April/May numbers.

We haven't seen a spike locally - but it would be interesting to see where the rise is coming from.

Cases are going up a bit here in Springfield area.

My surgeon buddy said there hasn’t been much on hospitalizations at this point but if cases are going up I’m guessing they’ll come

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Greene/Stone/Christian Counties (Springfield metro) 701 total cases.

Jasper/Newton 1338; City of Joplin 241.


Source

Guessing that’s some of the big factories over there getting hit?

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by O.city

Guessing that’s some of the big factories over there getting hit?

McDonald is in the 700s so that would be one explanation which makes sense.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

I'm mostly back to normal. Starting to log some miles on the bike again, which is nice.

Once or twice a week though - out of nowhere - I have days where I'm ridiculously fatigued. No rhyme or reason, not sure if it's related or not. Have a doc appt. back in STL in a few weeks to get checked out.

Good to hear youre back to normal. Might be a stupid question but have you had your thyroid levels tested? I ask because a few years ago I had bouts of unexplained fatigue and they discovered my thyroid was shot to hell because of head/neck radiation I had for throat cancer awhile back. Once they prescribed synthroid i felt like a champ again. My wife had the same thing happen to her....fatigue like she didnt sleep a wink all night etc until they found out her thyroid levels were way too low. Its not uncommon.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Good to hear youre back to normal. Might be a stupid question but have you had your thyroid levels tested? I ask because a few years ago I had bouts of unexplained fatigue and they discovered my thyroid was shot to hell because of head/neck radiation I had for throat cancer awhile back. Once they prescribed synthroid i felt like a champ again. My wife had the same thing happen to her....fatigue like she didnt sleep a wink all night etc until they found out her thyroid levels were way too low. Its not uncommon.

I have had the same issues most of the year. Chalked it up to getting old and stress. Self diagnosed and on a hunch ordered some T4 online and after about a week felt like the old BCD.