***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Mr. Plow]

So I hear Lew has a sinus infection.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

So I hear Lew has a sinus infection.

Was he tested for that? If not, it really is an unknown, right?

[HonestChieffan]

Originally Posted by O.city

Cases are going up like crazy, deaths are now following. Whats the logical end?

trend would say we will all be positive and no one will ever die again

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

Cases are going up like crazy, deaths are now following. Whats the logical end?

Cases have been increasing for over a month. Deaths have increased, most noticeably, in 3 states.

Let's not get too far ahead of ourselves here.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

Cases are going up like crazy, deaths are now following. Whats the logical end?

Deaths are no where near what they were at this point

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by O.city

Get ready to lockdown again. It's coming.

We've been virtually locked down for a week but a full lock down is coming here again soon as well.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Historically, everywhere has started to taper off once it gets bad, so hopefully they'll bend the curve back down before then.

Does it only taper off because places go on full lockdown when the hospitals fill up though?

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Donger

Was he tested for that? If not, it really is an unknown, right?

He has one for sure. Does he strike you as the kind of little pussy that would catch this fake disease? Ha! Lew is a real man and would never cower to this fake flu generated by the NWO.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Does it only taper off because places go on full lockdown when the hospitals fill up though?

We don't know. I guess we'll see.

[Donger]

New York (CNN Business)CVS (CVS) and Target (TGT) will require customers to wear masks in their stores across the United States as the retail industry moves to enforce mask mandates to slow the spread of the coronavirus.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Donger

I suppose we can hope that the majority of new cases are among the younger, and it won't get to that.

For new cases a month ago I feel like a month ago that was definitely the case.

But how much are we creeping back towards an older, more at-risk demographic as the first wave of young people infect other people, and then that second wave infects more people, etc.? That's a big open question.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

For new cases a month ago I feel like a month ago that was definitely the case.

But how much are we creeping back towards an older, more at-risk demographic as the first wave of young people infect other people? That's a big open question.

Yep. As I said, they really aren't the major concern. Unfortunately, this thing has an R0 of 2.5

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Donger

New York (CNN Business)CVS (CVS) and Target (TGT) will require customers to wear masks in their stores across the United States as the retail industry moves to enforce mask mandates to slow the spread of the coronavirus.

That's much less newsworthy than Walmart.

In our town, if you would have gone into target before the mask order a few weeks ago, you'd see about 95% of the people in Target or 100% in Trader Joe's wearing a mask. You'd see about 40% of the people in Walmart wearing a mask, and the employees would be doing the "mask over the mouth but not over the nose" copout.

The difference in clientele and behaviors is absolutely astounding.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Likely not, as I was exposed to multiple staff and patients with positives and symptoms the first time as well. Likely asymptomatic positive, without enough viral load to produce an immune response and offer any meaningful protection.

When was the first test again?

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Pants

But what if it's BOTH a sinus infection AND Rona? You ever think about that, Lew???

Sorry to hear about your sinus infection as well Lew. The Chiefs aren't making the playoffs this year either. 2020 sucks.