***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Well the media has made the shift from deaths to cases. A lot of people have grasped onto that and now have a "but are you dead?" attitude. I agree in places like AZ and CA where the hospitals are getting ran on things need to be taken seriously.

But people understand that if you do get Covid you are not going to die and really have a good chance to not even know you got it.

Rightly or wrongly it comes down to deaths. And good or bad, we have seen cases almost triple but deaths are not up by much.

And here's the ****ing problem.

People are ****ing selfish and only care about themselves.

YOU probably won't die. What about the people you pass it on to unknowingly? Or the people THEY pass it on to unknowingly? And the people THEY pass it on to unknowlingly?

And that's just deaths. Let's talk about the long term effects. Wife spoke to a doc at Lake Ozark Regional Hospital today. Lots of stories to tell, but the one that stood out to me was the 18 year old female high school athlete who "recovered" but has a chest x-ray unlike doctors have ever seen. They have no idea how it's going to effect her long term.

Shit, there's not a day that goes by that I don't think about what's happening inside me at any given moment. I'm several months into "recovery" and there are still days I feel like ass out of nowhere.

TL;DR: People need to start giving a shit about others.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I heard an interview with a guy who owned a barbershop and he said he expects to be cited but he isn't closing.

You can't tell people their business are shut down and tough shit if it means you can't feed yourself, pay your rent, etc. People will just ignore you. Especially when the order is coming from someone who is getting their full pay check.

In the Ca central valley there have been a couple of mayors that have declared "all businesses are essential" in their towns and cities and have been giving Gavin the middle finger

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I heard an interview with a guy who owned a barbershop and he said he expects to be cited but he isn't closing.

You can't tell people their business are shut down and tough shit if it means you can't feed yourself, pay your rent, etc. People will just ignore you. Especially when the order is coming from someone who is getting their full pay check.

Maybe people can get away with it in smaller counties and cities but that would be difficult to pull off in the heart of Hollywood because there's a "Task Force" that exists to make sure businesses are in compliance with the state and local orders.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Maybe people can get away with it in smaller counties and cities but that would be difficult to pull off in the heart of Hollywood because there's a "Task Force" that exists to make sure businesses are in compliance with the state and local orders.

Yeah, the King's Guard......this guy sounded like he was in L.A..

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

And here's the ****ing problem.

People are ****ing selfish and only care about themselves.

YOU probably won't die. What about the people you pass it on to unknowingly? Or the people THEY pass it on to unknowingly? And the people THEY pass it on to unknowlingly?

And that's just deaths. Let's talk about the long term effects. Wife spoke to a doc at Lake Ozark Regional Hospital today. Lots of stories to tell, but the one that stood out to me was the 18 year old female high school athlete who "recovered" but has a chest x-ray unlike doctors have ever seen. They have no idea how it's going to effect her long term.

Shit, there's not a day that goes by that I don't think about what's happening inside me at any given moment. I'm several months into "recovery" and there are still days I feel like ass out of nowhere.

TL;DR: People need to start giving a shit about others.

I wouldn't rack your brain to much about what's going on inside you. Sometimes it's best we don't know......all kinds of creepy, crawly stuff in us

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I wouldn't rack your brain to much about what's going on inside you. Sometimes it's best we don't know......all kinds of creepy, crawly stuff in us

Glad that’s what you took away from my post. And you wonder why you’re getting beat up in this thread?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Glad that’s what you took away from my post. And you wonder why you’re getting beat up in this thread?

Who said that's all I took away from your post, Karen? Damn......

[lewdog]

I’ve got more chest tightness feeling on day 6 than I’ve had on any other day. I realize days 7-10 can sometimes go more severe.

Could really use some Boone’s farm.

[jdubya]

Anybody remember the news discussing the strange respiratory affects of vaping and E cigs on our youth last year? I remember seeing reports of doctors looking at young kids lungs asking, "WTF???" and there were definitely ill kids and some fatalities and tons of talk about making ecigs and vaping unlawful. Has that discussion stopped because of Covid? Seems to me I havent heard anything regarding Ecigs and vaping killing people anymore.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Who said that's all I took away from your post, Karen? Damn......

Feel free to share then.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I’ve got more chest tightness feeling on day 6 than I’ve had on any other day. I realize days 7-10 can sometimes go more severe.

Could really use some Boone’s farm.

How's the pulse ox looking?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Anybody remember the news discussing the strange respiratory affects of vaping and E cigs on our youth last year? I remember seeing reports of doctors looking at young kids lungs asking, "WTF???" and there were definitely ill kids and some fatalities and tons of talk about making ecigs and vaping unlawful. Has that discussion stopped because of Covid? Seems to me I havent heard anything regarding Ecigs and vaping killing people anymore.

That vaping shit is just idiotic.....never understood it.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Feel free to share then.

What do you want me to share? Do you need some sort of validation? Some form of confirmation of your opinion? I told you why I thought people weren't taking it seriously. I am not sure what it is you think I am supposed to say?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I’ve got more chest tightness feeling on day 6 than I’ve had on any other day. I realize days 7-10 can sometimes go more severe.

Could really use some Boone’s farm.

Check your Pulse Ox and take the tightness seriously, please.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I’ve got more chest tightness feeling on day 6 than I’ve had on any other day. I realize days 7-10 can sometimes go more severe.

Could really use some Boone’s farm.

Let your kid take a ball bat to your knee once or twice. It won't fix your chest but you'll forget about it for a few hours at least.