***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[eDave]

Originally Posted by mac459

Well my oldest step kid is getting test on Monday, so we will see how that goes.

Feels like this thing is getting closer.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by eDave

Feels like this thing is getting closer.

It's been close all along

You just didn't know it

[eDave]

Originally Posted by loochy

It's been close all along

You just didn't know it

I knew it. Just people closer to me.

[Halfcan]

I expect the media will be switching their narrative soon to - Everyone has to wear a mask until their is a cure, since death numbers are going down.

They need something to keep up the scare tactics and political blame game.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

I expect the media will be switching their narrative soon to - Everyone has to wear a mask until their is a cure, since death numbers are going down.

They need something to keep up the scare tactics and political blame game.

My view is wear it and prove it's not effective, then we can ditch them. It's not working in AZ so I'm close to being done with it, mentally. Then my friend Lewdog falls ill AGAIN and I get all discombobulated about it all.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Everyone has to wear a mask until their is a cure

This sentence is solid proof that we can't afford to keep elementary schools shut down any longer.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

I expect the media will be switching their narrative soon to - Everyone has to wear a mask until their is a cure, since death numbers are going down.

They need something to keep up the scare tactics and political blame game.

[dirk digler]

New large study from South Korea in regards to kids. Less than 10 years old less transmission but ages 10-19 they transmit just like adults. That would line up with what we are seeing in Florida with so many kids testing positive.

Kids ages 10-19 spread coronavirus as much as adults, according to a study of 65,000 people in South Korea. The report suggests school reopenings will trigger more outbreaks.https://t.co/UFXLGvlid9

— Dr. Seema Yasmin (@DoctorYasmin) July 18, 2020

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

I expect the media will be switching their narrative soon to - Everyone has to wear a mask until their is a cure, since death numbers are going down.

They need something to keep up the scare tactics and political blame game.

Can mods change your name to Halfwit?

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

New large study from South Korea in regards to kids. Less than 10 years old less transmission but ages 10-19 they transmit just like adults. That would line up with what we are seeing in Florida with so many kids testing positive.

This also kind of falls in line with what the New York Times published as far as the genesis for the falling out between the White House and the CDC. They reported that the initial (private) memo the CDC sent to the president recommended remote schooling for grades 7-12 (or was it 6-12? I can't remember the exact numbers), and then breaking up elementary school classes into smaller groups of 8-10 and placing them in the larger high school classrooms to help distance them.

[keg in kc]

In more personal news, this weekend marked the first somewhat close (to me) positive test so far. The father of a co-worker.

Honestly expected one sooner, but I don't have a lot of contact with people...

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

Can mods change your name to Halfwit?

Right now the mask order is INDEFINITE- UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE

So tell me Dr. Fauci - when will that be? When the death rate goes down? No, it is already dropping. When they stop over reporting cases?

Or does that mean When there is a cure?

Stating that the media could start taking this as a narrative is not a stretch by any means.

[tk13]

Freddie Freeman says his "scariest night" while battling COVID-19 was when his fever spiked to 104.5 degrees.

The @Braves star said a prayer that night: "Please don't take me." pic.twitter.com/xm9DWaEtyl

— FOX Sports: Braves (@FOXSportsBraves) July 18, 2020

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by tk13

Freddie Freeman says his "scariest night" while battling COVID-19 was when his fever spiked to 104.5 degrees.

The @Braves star said a prayer that night: "Please don't take me." pic.twitter.com/xm9DWaEtyl

— FOX Sports: Braves (@FOXSportsBraves) July 18, 2020

I don't want to discount these types of cases at all but people point to them and in doing so ignore to 99 other cases that are not like that. We have got to keep perspective on this. Does anyone think lew is going to die? NO! And the ****er has had it twice as far as we know.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

This also kind of falls in line with what the New York Times published as far as the genesis for the falling out between the White House and the CDC. They reported that the initial (private) memo the CDC sent to the president recommended remote schooling for grades 7-12 (or was it 6-12? I can't remember the exact numbers), and then breaking up elementary school classes into smaller groups of 8-10 and placing them in the larger high school classrooms to help distance them.

I think in that same document they labeled school openings high risk.

If kids 10-19 transmit like adults I think it is going to be very hard to open up schools at least in large towns. Maybe more rural areas will be able to do that though.