***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by petegz28

It is most certainly your style. You are doom and gloom through and through, bro. It's not even debatable.

You say people minimize things because they don't share your doom and gloom attitude. Pointing to the data is not minimizing anything. It's pointing to the data.

That is what I do as well, but guess what alot of the data is mostly bad news because we (the United States) have done a shitty ass job containing this virus. Just like that new study from SK about kids. It is not good news if we want to reopen schools.

I do try to post positive news about vaccines because I am very hopeful\positive we will have multiple vaccines to choose from.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

No we added seatbelts and people bitched about that too but I do understand that you're being intentionally obtuse like you have throughout this cursed thread.

Yeah we added airbags too and people still get killed in car wrecks every day. I am not being obtuse I am pointing out that you can't have it both ways. Which you have tried to do.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

That is what I do as well, but guess what alot of the data is mostly bad news because we (the United States) have done a shitty ass job containing this virus. Just like that new study from SK about kids. It is not good news if we want to reopen schools.

I do try to post positive news about vaccines because I am very hopeful\positive we will have multiple vaccines to choose from.

Dirk you have been one of the doomiest of the doom and gloomers. I get it but even your positive posts are couched in tragedy.

Case in point, we lose kids by the 100's every year to the flu. At least in the state of Kansas we haven't lost one to Covid. Yet somehow we are now worried about them? See where I am going with that?

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Dirk you have been one of the doomiest of the doom and gloomers. I get it but even your positive posts are couched in tragedy.

Case in point, we lose kids by the 100's every year to the flu. At least in the state of Kansas we haven't lost one to Covid. Yet somehow we are now worried about them? See where I am going with that?

I won't disagree with that, because I am pissed off alot because we aren't doing what is necessary to get back to normal. I will be alot worse if the NFL season doesn't happen so watch out.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I won't disagree with that, because I am pissed off alot because we aren't doing what is necessary to get back to normal. I will be alot worse if the NFL season doesn't happen so watch out.

[TLO]

Monoclonal antibodies

[Baby Lee]

Everyone has a breaking point.
Maybe realize that all those crazy Karen's out there screeching about masks are just where YOU will be when your football isn't on TV.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Everyone has a breaking point.
Maybe realize that all those crazy Karen's out there screeching about masks are just where YOU will be when your football isn't on TV.

Promise I'll never pee on the floor of a Buffalo Wild Wings if there's no football on.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by TLO

Monoclonal antibodies

This is the ticket to getting the country back to "normal" before a vaccine is ready. I'm going to sign up for a trial if I can.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Just wait, be patient, when we're still wearing masks years from now and society finds new 'simple steps' that are now executive order punishable by individual sanction to save us from those scourges.

Sure sucks that we have had to wear masks since 1918.

Clearly, "the government" wants us to wear masks to exert control, not because there's a pandemic.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Just wait, be patient, when we're still wearing masks years from now and society finds new 'simple steps' that are now executive order punishable by individual sanction to save us from those scourges.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Why are you laughing? Masks during a pandemic are a slippery slope. We are gonna slide right down to the end of our freedumbz.

[emaw1979]

So I was out of town for the 4th and got a text that my uncle tested positive before a routine colonoscopy. He had no symptoms. Both my uncle and aunt stayed quarantined for 12 days when she started developing a cough and lethargy with no fever. They did a pulse oxygen test at home and it came back at 86. They took her to the ER and she tested positive.

She's been there for a few days but is doing well. She's on oxygen and some medicine to prevent blood clots. Chest xrays and blood work are good. She's hoping to be released Monday.

They are both in their mid 60's, obese with medical history. Both have been very cautious with masks when they do go out in public and not going out but they have had family at their place. We would have been there for the 4th if we weren't on vacation.

[AustinChief]

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....15.20154294v1

New Oxford study suggesting herd immunity at 10 to 20%

The idea of cross immunity may explain why some regions do so much better even when mitigation efforts are nearly identical.

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[Pants]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....15.20154294v1

New Oxford study suggesting herd immunity at 10 to 20%

The idea of cross immunity may explain why some regions do so much better even when mitigation efforts are nearly identical.

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This would be incredible.