***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Dafuq? Texas is bad man if you’re looking for optimism and sunshiny happiness maybe there should be a different thread because you won’t find a lot of it in here look at the state of what we’re dealing with.

Um no it's most definitely not at the moment. The only "bad" area is down in the valley where something (no idea what) is heavily skewing the numbers.

Hidalgo county is less than 3% of the population of Texas but accounts for 30% of Covid deaths on most days recently. That does not add up in any way.

[BigCatDaddy]

I brought up there were reports of this from people a few weeks back.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/medic...v3M3rW-iYb1pUw

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Well if it makes you feel any better, my completely arm chair and uneducated opinion is I don't think the weather is going to really sway the numbers a whole lot and I think this thing is just going to be steady until a vaccine.

So sucks it won't go away, but I only anticipate a spike because of how many holidays are sandwiched near each other.

Yea. Summer didn't cause that much of a slow down so I'm not sure that fall, winter will cause that sudden of a spike.

A vaccine or super fast test. Heard another reference to a 20 minute saliva test. If that is cheap enough that could be a game changer. Hand the tests out for free. Young people could test themselves before heading to the bars. College students could be checked frequently etc.

[Chitownchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I brought up there were reports of this from people a few weeks back.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/medic...v3M3rW-iYb1pUw

See this makes more sense. I've heard these stories but they were always in the sense of "proof the numbers are fake"

Turns out its a poor design for the testing. If.
someone is a assigned a number 15 and then leaves the person that was 16 is now going to be number 15 but the info is still that of the person before them

So if person number 16 tests positive they contact person number 15 saying they are positive even though they were never tested. . Sounds like a very poorly set set up system.

[Strongside]

This “testing positive without ever getting tested” business is some alarming shit.

[Chris Meck]

Well.

I've lost $20k in contracts since March. As an independent contractor, I take advantage of write-offs and so I am ineligible for unemployment or the stimulus check.

The $20k I'm out is just the contracts for event production; I've obviously also not earned any performance money, which is typically another $1k or more a month.

Or the freelance money in which I contract out to larger production houses for corporate events; typically another $1k or more per month.

At this point, the entire year is gone. Good thing I paid my house off!

The countries that have done well left us a blueprint. We just want to argue politics instead.

This is all so unnecessary.

I'm screwed.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

Um no it's most definitely not at the moment. The only "bad" area is down in the valley where something (no idea what) is heavily skewing the numbers.

Hidalgo county is less than 3% of the population of Texas but accounts for 30% of Covid deaths on most days recently. That does not add up in any way.

Based on trends I have seen here and well, pretty much everywhere I am going to guess its a highly Hispanic populated area.

Yup just checked, 90% Hispanic. Its a common theme. Mostly multi family households so Covid spreads like wildfire.

The vast majority of the cases here have been Islander and Hispanic households. It is what it is.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Well.

I've lost $20k in contracts since March. As an independent contractor, I take advantage of write-offs and so I am ineligible for unemployment or the stimulus check.

The $20k I'm out is just the contracts for event production; I've obviously also not earned any performance money, which is typically another $1k or more a month.

Or the freelance money in which I contract out to larger production houses for corporate events; typically another $1k or more per month.

At this point, the entire year is gone. Good thing I paid my house off!

The countries that have done well left us a blueprint. We just want to argue politics instead.

This is all so unnecessary.

I'm screwed.

Stop being selfish.

[petegz28]

Been hearing a bit of talk about increased cases of Pleurisy around locally. This is being diagnosed as the result of wearing masks for excessive amounts of time. They are also being recorded as "Covid related" cases.

So add that to the mix.....

Admittedly this is completely anecdotal.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Well.

I've lost $20k in contracts since March. As an independent contractor, I take advantage of write-offs and so I am ineligible for unemployment or the stimulus check.

The $20k I'm out is just the contracts for event production; I've obviously also not earned any performance money, which is typically another $1k or more a month.

Or the freelance money in which I contract out to larger production houses for corporate events; typically another $1k or more per month.

At this point, the entire year is gone. Good thing I paid my house off!

The countries that have done well left us a blueprint. We just want to argue politics instead.

This is all so unnecessary.

I'm screwed.

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Stop being selfish.

Yeah! Go get in the bread lines and !!!

[TLO]

The CDC updated some information today, and while reading about it, I came across this.

In six months since the virus emerged, the CDC said “there have been no confirmed cases of SARS-CoV-2 reinfection.”

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Stop being selfish.

?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

?

I believe that was sarcasm

[Chitownchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

Um no it's most definitely not at the moment. The only "bad" area is down in the valley where something (no idea what) is heavily skewing the numbers.

Hidalgo county is less than 3% of the population of Texas but accounts for 30% of Covid deaths on most days recently. That does not add up in any way.

From what I've been reading Mcallen is getting hit hard.

Texas is so large it's hard to really count it all as one state. Its like if we put Illinois Missouri and Indiana all together. The total numbers would be high but i don't think that would be the whole picture.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by TLO

I believe that was sarcasm

I was hoping, but you never can tell around here.