***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

Thats how you start with these types of things. Usually, it's more "alot of small studies set up well show a bigger results" It's hard to setup big ones TBH>

I assumed as much. It just seems like very random numbers at times.

[TLO]

An update from DHSS for those watching Missouri numbers.

�� This month, we have been experiencing an increase in both testing and positive cases. The increase, along with testing delays at national laboratories, has caused a backlog of data processing and entry at the state level. Today’s record increase, and the record high numbers for the last ten days, is because our data entry staff has worked diligently to clear the backlog and today’s update will be the last with additional cases. Tomorrow’s update will be current with only new cases reported in the last 24 hours.

�� What does this mean?
- This situation DOES cause a delay in reporting data related to new cases on a statewide level.
- This situation DOES mean we will continue to see to see daily reports of new cases similar to today’s until there is no backlog.
- This situation DOES NOT delay the reporting of positive results from labs to patients.
- This situation DOES NOT delay the reporting of positive results from DHSS to local public health agencies for contact tracing.

[TLO]

Crossing my fingers, toes, balls, etc that tomorrow yields much lower numbers. I have my doubts though.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Fauci wants goggle now

The oddest thing to me on this seemingly ridiculous statement is it points towards the apparent ineffectiveness of masks since the whole goal of them is to keep the virus from becoming airborne.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

The oddest thing to me on this seemingly ridiculous statement is it points towards the apparent ineffectiveness of masks since the whole goal of them is to keep the virus from becoming airborne.

It's not odd at all. If everyone wears a mask, it's probably not as necessary. Unfortunately, we live in a country full of reeruns.

You can get infected through your eyes, nose and mouth.

Wearing a mask covers your mouth and nose. Hence why people have been saying this entire time that the masks protect others more than they protect you. A lot of the virus-carrying particles coming out of your mouth and nose get stopped by the mask (notice I didn't say "ALL").

It's obvious that if you want to more fully protect yourself, then you need to take care of your eyes somehow.

Hence, wearing goggles offers more protection from the anti-mask reeruns.

It doesn't take a high IQ to understand this, my man.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

The oddest thing to me on this seemingly ridiculous statement is it points towards the apparent ineffectiveness of masks since the whole goal of them is to keep the virus from becoming airborne.

No it doesn't. At all. Some people are weirdly binary.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

The oddest thing to me on this seemingly ridiculous statement is it points towards the apparent ineffectiveness of masks since the whole goal of them is to keep the virus from becoming airborne.

Nah man there's a bunch of people out there who are expelling C-19 laden droplets from their tear ducts.

[O.city]

If someone isn't wearing a mask and it's aerosolized by a cough you can contract thru the fluid in your eyes.

I'd imagine thats a rarity though.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by O.city

If someone isn't wearing a mask and it's aerosolized by a cough you can contract thru the fluid in your eyes.

I'd imagine thats a rarity though.

Goggles are meant to protect others. Not you.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Goggles are meant to protect others. Not you.

Ah, thats what we're doin. Ok.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Goggles are meant to protect others. Not you.

Is that what Dr. Fauci said?

[BigCatDaddy]

Places that locked down hard and masked up early are blowing up now. Sweden appears to have made the right call.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Places that locked down hard and masked up early are blowing up now. Sweden appears to have made the right call.

This argument makes no sense.

Are you saying that masking up and locking down early somehow makes future outbreaks worse?

It has already been discussed ad nauseam in this thread how Sweden fared both economically and in terms of death compared to their two next-door neighbors.

Even taking all of the nuance out and pretending that all cultures and nations are the same and there are no variables at all, I would contend that we, as a species, are now better equipped to deal with the disease caused by SARS2.

Therefore, I think it stands to reason that maybe locking down early and masking up and delaying any potential outbreaks probably ended up saving quite a few lives.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Places that locked down hard and masked up early are blowing up now. Sweden appears to have made the right call.

Example(s)?

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Places that locked down hard and masked up early are blowing up now. Sweden appears to have made the right call.

Troll remark is obvious trolling.