***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by TLO

1465 a week ago
1179 today.

Cases are down too.

Need to get that vaccine in those nursing homes asap. Do that and this shit is seriously down graded.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Just got my test. Negative. Also negative for strep. Hmmm maybe Laryngitis

Nice!

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Need to get that vaccine in those nursing homes asap. Do that and this shit is seriously down graded.

I'd speculate of you knocked the deaths in care facilities down 75% or so you would see a huge shift in the national psyche.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

1465 a week ago
1179 today.

Cases are down too.

1185 now but I think we can say we will come in well under 1465.

[petegz28]

WELLINGTON, Fla. (CBS12) — A report from the Palm Beach County Medical examiner obtained by CBS12 News shows that a young Wellington nurse believed to have passed from COVID-19, was never infected with the virus at all.

The report shows that 33-year-old Danielle DiCenso died from "complications of acute pyelonephritis," otherwise known as a kidney infection.

DiCenso was quarantining at home when she died suddenly in her sleep. Before she passed away, DiCenso was tested for COVID-19 after she was reportedly exposed to the virus at work.

Her husband, David DiCenso told CBS12 News that the young nurse was not given proper PPE at her job at Palmetto General in Hialeah. He said she began experiencing coronavirus symptoms in late March, and her test came back inconclusive.

DiCenso was still waiting on official results from the coroner when he spoke to CBS12 News back in April, but he said he had no doubt that she was exposed to COVID-19 at work. He was surprised when his wife, who he believed had no preexisting conditions, died suddenly.

"It looked like the oxygen was just taken out of her," he told CBS12 News in a prior interview.

CBS12 News reached out to DiCenso for comment but has not heard back.

https://cbs12.com/news/local/autopsy...SHQEwJ3CeQqkN4

[loochy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

WELLINGTON, Fla. (CBS12) — A report from the Palm Beach County Medical examiner obtained by CBS12 News shows that a young Wellington nurse believed to have passed from COVID-19, was never infected with the virus at all.

The report shows that 33-year-old Danielle DiCenso died from "complications of acute pyelonephritis," otherwise known as a kidney infection.

DiCenso was quarantining at home when she died suddenly in her sleep. Before she passed away, DiCenso was tested for COVID-19 after she was reportedly exposed to the virus at work.

Her husband, David DiCenso told CBS12 News that the young nurse was not given proper PPE at her job at Palmetto General in Hialeah. He said she began experiencing coronavirus symptoms in late March, and her test came back inconclusive.

DiCenso was still waiting on official results from the coroner when he spoke to CBS12 News back in April, but he said he had no doubt that she was exposed to COVID-19 at work. He was surprised when his wife, who he believed had no preexisting conditions, died suddenly.

"It looked like the oxygen was just taken out of her," he told CBS12 News in a prior interview.

CBS12 News reached out to DiCenso for comment but has not heard back.

https://cbs12.com/news/local/autopsy...SHQEwJ3CeQqkN4

She died of Q

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

WELLINGTON, Fla. (CBS12) — A report from the Palm Beach County Medical examiner obtained by CBS12 News shows that a young Wellington nurse believed to have passed from COVID-19, was never infected with the virus at all.

The report shows that 33-year-old Danielle DiCenso died from "complications of acute pyelonephritis," otherwise known as a kidney infection.

DiCenso was quarantining at home when she died suddenly in her sleep. Before she passed away, DiCenso was tested for COVID-19 after she was reportedly exposed to the virus at work.

Her husband, David DiCenso told CBS12 News that the young nurse was not given proper PPE at her job at Palmetto General in Hialeah. He said she began experiencing coronavirus symptoms in late March, and her test came back inconclusive.

DiCenso was still waiting on official results from the coroner when he spoke to CBS12 News back in April, but he said he had no doubt that she was exposed to COVID-19 at work. He was surprised when his wife, who he believed had no preexisting conditions, died suddenly.

"It looked like the oxygen was just taken out of her," he told CBS12 News in a prior interview.

CBS12 News reached out to DiCenso for comment but has not heard back.

https://cbs12.com/news/local/autopsy...SHQEwJ3CeQqkN4

Healthy 33 year old dying from a UTI is not very common , probably not her first one and often easily self diagnosed, other than fever symptoms don’t really line up with Covid , must be more to the story in there somewhere, like all anecdotal accounts.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Healthy 33 year old dying from a UTI is not very common , probably not her first one and often easily self diagnosed, other than fever symptoms don’t really line up with Covid , must be more to the story in there somewhere, like all anecdotal accounts.

Of course. Must be.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Of course. Must be.

Maybe got an STD and was too afraid to have her husband find out Since she didn’t get it from him and died of embarrassment.

Out of medical curiosity It would be interesting to have the whole story, usually patients who die from urosepsis are older and wait too long to get treated or have other issues .

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Maybe got an STD and was too afraid to have her husband find out Since she didn’t get it from him and died of embarrassment.

Out of medical curiosity It would be interesting to have the whole story, usually patients who die from urosepsis are older and wait too long to get treated or have other issues .

Could very well be. I agree kidney failure in someone young and healthy is not really something you hear a lot about.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Could very well be. I agree kidney failure in someone young and healthy is not really something you hear a lot about.

Once it gets to the kidney the pain is usually enough to get you to the ER , and getting to the point of sepsis/ renal failure without talking to a doctor seems weird, even dying In Your sleep would be weird because of the pain, sleeping isn’t easy.

[RINGLEADER]

If you look at all the places where Covid has fallen to a couple hundred cases per day you see the curve that others talk about that takes about 9-10 weeks to complete. It sure looks like we’re in that curve with about 5-6 weeks to go before we reach an equivalent level (which for our population would be around 1K a day). A lot of people are still going to die since the deaths lag as we know, but I think this this burns itself out faster than most suspect once you get a widespread and pervasive outbreak.

Here’s hoping at least.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

If you look at all the places where Covid has fallen to a couple hundred cases per day you see the curve that others talk about that takes about 9-10 weeks to complete. It sure looks like we’re in that curve with about 5-6 weeks to go before we reach an equivalent level (which for our population would be around 1K a day). A lot of people are still going to die since the deaths lag as we know, but I think this this burns itself out faster than most suspect once you get a widespread and pervasive outbreak.

Here’s hoping at least.

Maybe but since we are opening schools I imagine their curves are going to go up again. We already seeing schools reopening with infections occurring. We won't have a second wave it is just going to be 1 long one.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Maybe but since we are opening schools I imagine their curves are going to go up again. We already seeing schools reopening with infections occurring. We won't have a second wave it is just going to be 1 long one.

We never dropped below 20,000 new cases/day, so yes.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Maybe but since we are opening schools I imagine their curves are going to go up again. We already seeing schools reopening with infections occurring. We won't have a second wave it is just going to be 1 long one.

We’re more like 50 different small Countries than one large one so that’s pretty much how it was always likely to go.