***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Wouldn't you rather just get it and get it over with at this point dude?

Nah. Ima stay home and be safe the rest of my life

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Nah. Ima stay home and be safe the rest of my life

Yep cuz that's what everyone is saying. You have to be one of the biggest douchebag dipshits on CP.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Nah. Ima stay home and be safe the rest of my life

Now thats what I call a Public Service!

[TLO]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Maybe TLO has some concerning conditions?

Nothing that I'm aware of. I'm a smoker, but that's actually shown to possibly be a positive with this virus, so that's a thing.

Originally Posted by lewdog

Likely not enough close contact.

I don't think so either. Even if I was exposed, the amount I was exposed to likely wouldn't be very high.

I'm just hopeful she isn't positive due to the patients she sees.

[petegz28]

Olathe just announced 2 days a week for elementary and remote for HS and JHS. I love how they site the DoE guidelines but ignore that those guidelines say elementary kids should be in school.

So it's like they want to follow the guidelines but not really......****ing bullshit

[Discuss Thrower]

Not that I liked going there but RIP Tapcade.

KC's downtown taking a n-o-s-e-d-i-v-e

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by JakeF

Notre dame with 147 cases in the first 2 weeks of school.

They have stopped almost all in-class school programs.

Cases means what??? 85% of cases are either asymptomatic or very mild. So we have to start transitioning to what "cases" means. I admit it can mean different things for different people but that's with any virus for that matter.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

I mean, we're sending all of our kids back to school in person, but why couldn't a 7 year old learn over a computer? What am I missing?

Depends on the kid. One of my girls has special needs, and I just found out today that she will have to follow the district protocol (whereas other kids with disabilities will be allowed to attend in class four days per week), which likely means three days of online instruction at best each week (and potentially five if cases stay where they're at).

She's had a para with her from K-2, and has issues with vision, gross motor, fine motor skills, and attentiveness. They are going to try to administer services to her virtually, which I think is an absolute fool's errand. Both my wife and I work and neither one of us are trained in special education. I honestly don't know how we're going to do it. I'm trying desperately to find someone with a SpEd background to come into the house on the days when they'll have virtual instruction, but that is going to be both incredibly difficult to find and expensive.

Honestly, it's a nightmare.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Depends on the kid. One of my girls has special needs, and I just found out today that she will have to follow the district protocol (whereas other kids with disabilities will be allowed to attend in class four days per week), which likely means three days of online instruction at best each week (and potentially five if cases stay where they're at).

She's had a para with her from K-2, and has issues with vision, gross motor, fine motor skills, and attentiveness. They are going to try to administer services to her virtually, which I think is an absolute fool's errand. Both my wife and I work and neither one of us are trained in special education. I honestly don't know how we're going to do it. I'm trying desperately to find someone with a SpEd background to come into the house on the days when they'll have virtual instruction, but that is going to be both incredibly difficult to find and expensive.

Honestly, it's a nightmare.

If you pay well and want to fly me out, I could do it for you. I work adults with special needs now, but my passion has always been helping younger kiddos with special needs.

I'm joking about flying me out, but that truly is my passion.

I hope you find the right person.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Depends on the kid. One of my girls has special needs, and I just found out today that she will have to follow the district protocol (whereas other kids with disabilities will be allowed to attend in class four days per week), which likely means three days of online instruction at best each week (and potentially five if cases stay where they're at).

She's had a para with her from K-2, and has issues with vision, gross motor, fine motor skills, and attentiveness. They are going to try to administer services to her virtually, which I think is an absolute fool's errand. Both my wife and I work and neither one of us are trained in special education. I honestly don't know how we're going to do it. I'm trying desperately to find someone with a SpEd background to come into the house on the days when they'll have virtual instruction, but that is going to be both incredibly difficult to find and expensive.

Honestly, it's a nightmare.

That's a tough situation, hamas. I hope you can get something worked out.

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Depends on the kid. One of my girls has special needs, and I just found out today that she will have to follow the district protocol (whereas other kids with disabilities will be allowed to attend in class four days per week), which likely means three days of online instruction at best each week (and potentially five if cases stay where they're at).

She's had a para with her from K-2, and has issues with vision, gross motor, fine motor skills, and attentiveness. They are going to try to administer services to her virtually, which I think is an absolute fool's errand. Both my wife and I work and neither one of us are trained in special education. I honestly don't know how we're going to do it. I'm trying desperately to find someone with a SpEd background to come into the house on the days when they'll have virtual instruction, but that is going to be both incredibly difficult to find and expensive.

Honestly, it's a nightmare.

I'm sorry to hear that. That's tough. Good vibes headed your way.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Depends on the kid. One of my girls has special needs, and I just found out today that she will have to follow the district protocol (whereas other kids with disabilities will be allowed to attend in class four days per week), which likely means three days of online instruction at best each week (and potentially five if cases stay where they're at).

She's had a para with her from K-2, and has issues with vision, gross motor, fine motor skills, and attentiveness. They are going to try to administer services to her virtually, which I think is an absolute fool's errand. Both my wife and I work and neither one of us are trained in special education. I honestly don't know how we're going to do it. I'm trying desperately to find someone with a SpEd background to come into the house on the days when they'll have virtual instruction, but that is going to be both incredibly difficult to find and expensive.

Honestly, it's a nightmare.

Well that's a bunch of horse shit. Why does she not get to go 4 days a week as well?

With you being the father of a child with special needs Im sure you already know about IEPs. Since other children with special needs are going to be allowed to go 4 days a week, then I think you could get something in her IEP that states she must be doing in person learning. Hell you might not even need that specifically stated in her IEP. I was looking at https://dese.mo.gov/special-educatio...on-program-iep and they have a newly revised Form G now for distanced learning and that form is only used if the school is closed. If the school isn't closed they may be required to allow her to go to school on days that the school is open.

This is the purpose of Form G for IEP's


PURPOSE: This form is designed to support individualized student planning for the delivery of special education and related services on days when school facilities are closed. It is recommended this form be used in conjunction with the companion document, Implementation guidance for alternative methods of instruction (AMI) days for students with disabilities, for additional information and strategies to support the planning of services and supports.

Also I know you said your wife and yourself work and aren't trained in special education, but I believe you can request training. This is also in the form

Parental and staff input on priorities needed for the student during closures (technology, instructional materials, instructional supports available in the home, training needed for parents in order to support distance learning in the home):

My sister has her masters in education and is an elementary school teacher and im pretty sure she said that schools must accommodate everything in an IEP regardless of costs. If you could get it worked out in the IEP that she must have someone in your home for instructional support I believe the school will have to pay for a para in the home.

I may be completely wrong with this and maybe someone else told me that stuff about IEPs, but it's definitely worth checking out(if you haven't already).

I hope you get everything figured out.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I agree. Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t take precautions or be concerned with exposure.

Marcellus said we should all just willingly “get it over with.” Yeah, that’s faulty thinking.

Keep all businesses open. Wear a mask and distance from others as much as possible. Limit your risk but still live life. Don’t just say **** it though. It’s too variable for why certain younger people are getting severe cases.

Actually I didn't say that at all. I asked TLO if he didn't want to just get it and get it over with. He specifically spends a ton of time worried about it.

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Actually I didn't say that at all. I asked TLO if he didn't want to just get it and get it over with. He specifically spends a ton of time worried about it.

I’d rather wait as long as I can so the therapeutics are that much better, just in case it hits me, or anyone I happen to expose, hard.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan

I’d rather wait as long as I can so the therapeutics are that much better, just in case it hits me, or anyone I happen to expose, hard.

To each their own.