Let's talk about the Chargers

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Baltimore is a prime regression candidate it's weird how people don't see that.

Regression to what? 13-3, 12-4 at worst?

They looked like the 2019 Ravens last weekend.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Regression to what? 13-3, 12-4 at worst?

They looked like the 2019 Ravens last weekend.

It seems unlikely Lamar Jackson is going to stay healthy for an entire season again based on his style of play.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

It seems unlikely Lamar Jackson is going to stay healthy for an entire season again based on his style of play.

If they continue to have him running around late in games when they have a huge lead like they did week 1 (and all of last year), they’re just asking for it at this point.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

It seems unlikely Lamar Jackson is going to stay healthy for an entire season again based on his style of play.

Same statement applies to Russell Wilson, but he has been extremely durable for 8+ years. Lamar has had fewer injury problems than Mahomes so far. All it takes is one bad play to cause huge problems for any of these guys.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Same statement applies to Russell Wilson, but he has been extremely durable for 8+ years. Lamar has had fewer injury problems than Mahomes so far. All it takes is one bad play to cause huge problems for any of these guys.

Russell Wilson scrambles a lot and takes hits, but his game is not based on rushing the football as much as Lamar Jackson.

The better comparison to Lamar Jackson's style of play is Cam Newton who has been injured a lot.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Russell Wilson scrambles a lot and takes hits, but his game is not based on rushing the football as much as Lamar Jackson.

The better comparison to Lamar Jackson's style of play is Cam Newton who has been injured a lot.

And there’s a huge difference in size between Cam and Lamar.

I don’t know how people can look at his frame and playing style and not see the inevitability of injury.

Like I said, they have him running around late in games when they have a huge lead. They’re playing with fire every single week.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by staylor26

And there’s a huge difference in size between Cam and Lamar.

I don’t know how people can look at his frame and playing style and not see the inevitability of injury.

Like I said, they have him running around late in games when they have a huge lead. They’re playing with fire every single week.

Cam doesn't run like Lamar.

Cam tries to bulldoze people with his massive frame.

Lamar more often than not gets low, slides, gets out of bounds etc. He does more to avoid contact, while at times, Cam goes looking for contact.

I don't think it's a good comparison.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Cam doesn't run like Lamar.

Cam tries to bulldoze people with his massive frame.

Lamar more often than not gets low, slides, gets out of bounds etc. He does more to avoid contact, while at times, Cam goes looking for contact.

I don't think it's a good comparison.

I understand your point and agree, the comparison is more about reliance on the run, but Lamar was taking shots left and right towards the end of last year and he took some week 1.

Teams are starting to realize you have to hit him when you get a chance, and they are.

Regardless, the way he’s built, I think a non-contact injury could just as easily be what does him in. Running around that much is dangerous outside of just getting hit.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by staylor26

And there’s a huge difference in size between Cam and Lamar.

I don’t know how people can look at his frame and playing style and not see the inevitability of injury.

Like I said, they have him running around late in games when they have a huge lead. They’re playing with fire every single week.

I agree that they should be more careful with him. But he doesn't really take the massive hits that Cam did. Lamar is super quick, and he's pretty smart about getting out of bounds as well (for the most part).

In terms of injury for Lamar, I think it more likely that he blows out a knee doing one of his crazy juke moves. This happened to Deshaun Watson in practice with nobody touching him.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by DRM08

I agree that they should be more careful with him. But he doesn't really take the massive hits that Cam did. Lamar is super quick, and he's pretty smart about getting out of bounds as well (for the most part).

In terms of injury for Lamar, I think it more likely that he blows out a knee doing one of his crazy juke moves. This happened to Deshaun Watson in practice with nobody touching him.

Again, he wasn’t taking shots early on, but talking about the end of the year last year and week 1 he’s been taking them way too often. If you’re going to run around that much, guys are going to get their shots.

Also, if you look at my post above yours, I totally agree that it could just as easily be a non-contact injury that does him in. The risk of both is fairly high considering his playing style and build.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Regression to what? 13-3, 12-4 at worst?

They looked like the 2019 Ravens last weekend.

They also played the ****ing Browns.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Regression to what? 13-3, 12-4 at worst?

They looked like the 2019 Ravens last weekend.

They beat the mighty Browns who struggled against Cinci last night. I watched the Ravens game and it was the same old story...Lamar mainly throwing to Andrews down the middle of the field and their defense was getting gashed by the run. The Ravens are a confidence team. Great when things are going their way but as soon as someone punches back like the Chiefs and Titans did last year, they fold quickly.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

They beat the mighty Browns who struggled against Cinci last night. I watched the Ravens game and it was the same old story...Lamar mainly throwing to Andrews down the middle of the field and their defense was getting gashed by the run. The Ravens are a confidence team. Great when things are going their way but as soon as someone punches back like the Chiefs and Titans did last year, they fold quickly.

This entire take is completely wrong.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

This entire take is completely wrong.

Your response is bs.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

They beat the mighty Browns who struggled against Cinci last night. I watched the Ravens game and it was the same old story...Lamar mainly throwing to Andrews down the middle of the field and their defense was getting gashed by the run. The Ravens are a confidence team. Great when things are going their way but as soon as someone punches back like the Chiefs and Titans did last year, they fold quickly.

Okay, dumbass, let's look at the facts. You say that the Browns struggled against CIN last night.

The Browns scored 35 points, all on offense, so no scores on fumble returns, pick-6s, or whatever. They manufactured five TDs on offense, two through the air by Baker and three on the ground between Hunt and Chubb.

Combined the Browns offense gained 434 yards, 219 passing/215 yards rushing.

I could go on, but you get the point. The Browns didn't struggle at all. Here's the link to the full boxscore just to beat a dead horse:
https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=401220163

As for the Ravens, in week 3 last season the Chiefs had them down 30-13 going into the 4th Q, and they came back, led by Lamar's legs and arm, scoring 17 points before we salted them away with that last clock killing drive, so saying they just fold at the first sign of pressure is just stupid.

About the only remotely factual part of your comments is that Lamar does like to throw between the numbers.