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Old 09-29-2020, 09:03 PM  
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In depth look at the sneaky Fisher TD
This was pretty cool to see how coordinated it was. That wall of guys hiding Fish when he was telling the officials he was an eligible receiver. I know they have to announce it but it seemed very coordinated.

Then Fish using Pat’s towel to get his hands ready was the chefs kiss

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Old 09-30-2020, 06:50 AM   #16
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I pointed this out to my wife when we watched the game last night. I thought it was an awesome concept. I didn't , however, notice the 'wall' in the huddle. that was pretty slick.
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Old 09-30-2020, 07:01 AM   #17
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Old 09-30-2020, 07:13 AM   #18
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People would rather believe a conspiracy than believe their team (who has been touted to be the best in the league) got fooled that badly.
It's a hard play to defend. It got us in the playoffs.

But, as a defense, if you assign someone to spy the player reporting as eligible, and they were just a decoy, you basically removed one of your goal line defenders.

If you ignore the player reporting as eligible, and guess & anticipate a QB sneak or a dive play, or something like that, and the play is really for that player, it's almost always a TD. I think in all my 43+ years of watching the NFL, the only time I saw this play fail is when the player dropped the ball because he was back peddling and the ball got into his chest faster than he anticipated. I wish I could remember the team or player, but I am pretty sure it's the only time that I personally have seen it fail.

I am sure it's failed plenty of times, I just haven't witnessed it. I can't do the research at the moment, but I have to believe the success rate of this type of play is very, very high.

Yet, some of the people in that thread act like it's only the second or third time they have seen it, and some are convinced it's illegal based on their team getting a flag on the play, which was probably for illegal formation because someone covered an eligible receiver because they forgot the tackle was eligible.

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Old 09-30-2020, 07:13 AM   #19
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Man, that was a great breakdown.. Sneaky brilliance.
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It's a new spin on the old Jumpin' Joe Valerio play, and Joe never dropped one. I love eligible tackles!! Nice hands, Fish!
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Old 09-30-2020, 10:19 AM   #21
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So, when DID the refs inform the defense? Was it over the mic? I honestly don't remember hearing them say "#72 has reported as eligible".
That's the part that was confusing on the video. Hiding Fisher looks fun, but it really shouldn't make any difference unless perhaps the defender who was guarding him wasn't paying attention to the announcement. Plus, you'd think the defense would have a signal-caller who made sure that everyone knew.

The clever part to me was the unbalanced line. Fisher wasn't lined up as a tight end. He was lined up in his normal tackle position. That's a difference maker to me, because it might've made the defender question whether he heard correctly, causing a slow reaction. A clever defender could've also noticed that the wideout was off the ball and figured out that Fisher was eligible, but that's pretty subtle.
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Old 09-30-2020, 10:55 AM   #22
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Chiefs havnt lost a game Fisher has started since the AFC Championship game in 2018
Wow, nice post.


I guess people need to stop talking shit about Fisher and find someone else to declare "not good enough".
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Old 09-30-2020, 10:59 AM   #23
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Once Fisher reported- The Ravens should have taken a time out to figure out what was going on. They didn't and just went with run. They got burned.
The Ravens shouldn't have stopped running the ball either but ....
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I’d like to see Fisher more involved in the passing game.
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Old 09-30-2020, 11:06 AM   #25
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The Ravens shouldn't have stopped running the ball either but ....
What good was that going to do? After the first drive, the Ravens running game wasn't super effective. And the Chiefs scored 4 straight touchdowns.

Running the ball wasn't going to save them. Just like rushing for 200 yards last year didn't save them.
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Old 09-30-2020, 12:02 PM   #26
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Another aspect to it is they also brought in an extra tackle (Allegretti) at the same time and was standing right next to Fisher when he reported. So, the official states that #72 is an eligible receiver and they see the new "extra" guy in the game and they probably just assumed that Allegretti was going to be the eligible receiver.
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I'll be honest. When I saw Allegretti take the field on that Down, I texted my brothers and said "What in the world? Why is Allegretti on the field?".

Well, that question was answered rather quickly.
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How come we don't do this more often. A long time ago (90's) we had Joe Valerio. When ever he went in, I was thinking the tackle pass.
Because we have a **** load of guys who are better receivers than Fisher.
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I'll be honest. When I saw Allegretti take the field on that Down, I texted my brothers and said "What in the world? Why is Allegretti on the field?".

Well, that question was answered rather quickly.
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