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Old 10-05-2020, 12:00 PM  
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Bieniemy definitely gone after this year

Enjoy him while you can. Sirius radio made mention that 3 teams are already researching him.

Gonna guess that’s the Jets, Lions and Bengals.

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Old 10-06-2020, 12:00 AM   #136
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Exactly. Cracked me up when people pulled the racism card when he wasn’t hired. First off, he had plenty of interviews. Maybe, just maybe he didn’t impress.

I’m still not even sure what Bienemy does. He could be a great head coach, who knows...but I wouidnt be excited if I rooted for the team that hired him.
You can't be serious. You don't know what bieniemy does? He may not call plays. But he does plenty. And every bit as much if not more than pederson or Nagy. I also am not sure of his coaching upside. I think he's better suited for college. But I'm confident he's a hell of a lot better than some of the dipshits hired instead of him. It's more of asking what dipshits keep obsessing over proven failure bellichick guys. It's wondering what lunatic walked into an interview with Gase and decided that was the guy.
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Old 10-06-2020, 12:14 AM   #137
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You can't be serious. You don't know what bieniemy does? He may not call plays. But he does plenty. And every bit as much if not more than pederson or Nagy. I also am not sure of his coaching upside. I think he's better suited for college. But I'm confident he's a hell of a lot better than some of the dipshits hired instead of him. It's more of asking what dipshits keep obsessing over proven failure bellichick guys. It's wondering what lunatic walked into an interview with Gase and decided that was the guy.
Bieniemy had the NFL MVP in 2018, who threw for 5,000 and 50.

He didn’t get a HC gig.

Bieniemy won with two different QB’s in 2019 and had the #2 Seed in the playoffs while interviewing for head coaching gigs.

Again, he didn’t get a HC gig.

Your claim that he’s “better than some of the dipshits” doesn’t really hold water. Matt Rhule’s short tenure has been nothing other than astounding, as the Panthers were thought to be in contention for the #1 overall pick yet they’ve been competitive in all 4 games and are 2-2.

Kevin Stefanski has guys buying in and the Browns are 3-1. The Giants roster is garbage and they lost only real offensive weapon for the season. I think it’s debatable whether or not EB could have accomplished much in Dallas because Jerry Jones but is anyone really shocked the always underperforming Cowboys are underperforming again?
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Old 10-06-2020, 12:29 AM   #138
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Bieniemy had the NFL MVP in 2018, who threw for 5,000 and 50.

He didn’t get a HC gig.

Bieniemy won with two different QB’s in 2019 and had the #2 Seed in the playoffs while interviewing for head coaching gigs.

Again, he didn’t get a HC gig.

Your claim that he’s “better than some of the dipshits” doesn’t really hold water. Matt Rhule’s short tenure has been nothing other than astounding, as the Panthers were thought to be in contention for the #1 overall pick yet they’ve been competitive in all 4 games and are 2-2.

Kevin Stefanski has guys buying in and the Browns are 3-1. The Giants roster is garbage and they lost only real offensive weapon for the season. I think it’s debatable whether or not EB could have accomplished much in Dallas because Jerry Jones but is anyone really shocked the always underperforming Cowboys are underperforming again?
I don't have an issue with the 2020 class and never criticized it (even if I hate the Joe Judge hire). 2019 was a total head scratcher. Like I said, it's not so much a criticism that EB wasn't hired in 2019 given his inexperience. But it's hard to criticize his inexperience them turn to gase, kitchens, and fangio.
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Old 10-06-2020, 12:37 AM   #139
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I don't have an issue with the 2020 class and never criticized it (even if I hate the Joe Judge hire). 2019 was a total head scratcher. Like I said, it's not so much a criticism that EB wasn't hired in 2019 given his inexperience. But it's hard to criticize his inexperience them turn to gase, kitchens, and fangio.
Gase was a former HC with a big endorsement from Peyton Manning and hired by one of the shittiest franchises in all pro sports.

The Browns and John Dorsey.

Fangio’s been in the league for a long time and wasn’t a one or two year wonder. I wouldn’t have hired him but Elway is just way out of his element and desperate.
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Old 10-06-2020, 02:12 AM   #140
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Gase was a former HC with a big endorsement from Peyton Manning and hired by one of the shittiest franchises in all pro sports.

The Browns and John Dorsey.

Fangio’s been in the league for a long time and wasn’t a one or two year wonder. I wouldn’t have hired him but Elway is just way out of his element and desperate.
Dorsey did fine in Cleveland.

Rumor has it that Jimmy and Dee Haslam wanted hands-on control on things that normally are decided by the GM. They wanted Hue Jackson to have a shot at staying so he remained for a year in Dorsey's 1st year. Dorsey wanted Kitchens to get a shot at Head Coach over Gregg Williams or looking outside the organization. Owners wanted Kitchen fired after just 6 games, Dorsey wanted his new coach to get more time. At the end of the season, the Owners told Dorsey that they decided to fire Kitchen. Dorsey and Haslams agree to part ways. Not many GMs are willing to give up control over their coaches.

Baker Mayfield
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Denzel Ward
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Odell Beckham Jr

Hardly a failure, other than Dorsey's decision to go to that organization in the 1st place.
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Old 10-06-2020, 05:47 AM   #141
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Mahomes can call his own plays. Eric Bieniemy is probably holding Patrick back a bit. I say trade EB for a first round pick now!
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Old 10-06-2020, 06:24 AM   #142
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Money, bruh. If youre making 400k and get a chance to make multiple millions instead, you take that. There's quite a bit to life beyond football. Get the money while you can.
He's making more than $400K right now and Clark has never had a problem paying coordinators if they earn it.
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Old 10-06-2020, 06:26 AM   #143
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It's going to be very interesting to watch when and where EB lands as a head coach.

Pedersen walked into an ideal situation, with a #1 overall QB, a solid offensive roster, a very good defense and a city that already liked him. He won the Super Bowl in 2017 but his teams haven't exactly been tearing up the league since.

Nagy had a nice 12-4 season followed by an 8-8 season and most likely, another 8-8/9-7 season ahead.

Neither of those guys have been able to win consistently, so it's looking like they're both missing the most important ingredients:

Andy Reid.
Pederson's made the POs twice after winning the SB, including winning a PO game.

He won a Superbowl with Nick Foles and then won a road PO game with him the following year.

I don't know what more you can ask from a HC aside from winning every season.

He's a damn good HC and the issues they have currently are based on Roseman's roster construction. They weren't able to replace a lot of the talent from the 2018 team.

And that's not even to mention Wentz has not played any where close to what he was at pre-ACL tear.
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Old 10-06-2020, 06:27 AM   #144
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Pederson's made the POs twice after winning the SB, including winning a PO game.

He won a Superbowl with Nick Foles and then won a road PO game with him the following year.

I don't know what more you can ask from a HC aside from winning every season.

He's a damn good HC and the issues they have currently are based on Roseman's roster construction. They weren't able to replace a lot of the talent from the 2018 team.

And that's not even to mention Wentz has not played any where close to what he was at pre-ACL tear.
Wentz is broken. He'll never be the same, IMO.
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Old 10-06-2020, 06:32 AM   #145
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Wentz is broken. He'll never be the same, IMO.
I don't disagree, but I don't know how much of that is on the nature of the injury, him currently having a shit OL, or Pederson.

Pederson's done the best, for the most part, with what he has.
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Old 10-06-2020, 06:34 AM   #146
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I don't disagree, but I don't know how much of that is on the nature of the injury, him currently a shit OL, or Pederson.

Pederson's done the best, for the most part, with what he has.
Personally, I'm not big on guys that have had back injuries. Injuries seem to come more easily after that, especially leg injuries that might be due to compensating gait.
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Dorsey did fine in Cleveland.

Rumor has it that Jimmy and Dee Haslam wanted hands-on control on things that normally are decided by the GM. They wanted Hue Jackson to have a shot at staying so he remained for a year in Dorsey's 1st year. Dorsey wanted Kitchens to get a shot at Head Coach over Gregg Williams or looking outside the organization. Owners wanted Kitchen fired after just 6 games, Dorsey wanted his new coach to get more time. At the end of the season, the Owners told Dorsey that they decided to fire Kitchen. Dorsey and Haslams agree to part ways. Not many GMs are willing to give up control over their coaches.

Baker Mayfield
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Hardly a failure, other than Dorsey's decision to go to that organization in the 1st place.
Hiring Kitchens in the first place is why he's a massive failure, dipshit.
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Dorsey did fine in Clevelanad.

Rumor has it that Jimmy and Dee Haslam wanted hands-on control on things that normally are decided by the GM. They wanted Hue Jackson to have a shot at staying so he remained for a year in Dorsey's 1st year. Dorsey wanted Kitchens to get a shot at Head Coach over Gregg Williams or looking outside the organization. Owners wanted Kitchen fired after just 6 games, Dorsey wanted his new coach to get more time. At the end of the season, the Owners told Dorsey that they decided to fire Kitchen. Dorsey and Haslams agree to part ways. Not many GMs are willing to give up control over their coaches.

Baker Mayfield
Nick Chubb
Denzel Ward
Jarvis Landry
Austin Corbett
Odell Beckham Jr

Hardly a failure, other than Dorsey's decision to go to that organization in the 1st place.
Hiring kitchens as an interim coach was a good move. Going through the interview process and hiring him long term was stupid. Dorsey is 100% responsible for the kitchens hiring as its well known that the browns pushed for Stefanski last year. And they probably would have made the playoffs with him when you look at how many games they lost with the most mindblowingly gamechanging penalties they made last year.
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I think EB will be an excellent HC. He's got a big personality, I think he's a lot like Pete Carroll in that regard, just an offensive version. The question for any first time coach is who will he bring in as coordinators. My fear is that not only could EB head to Atlanta, but what if he takes a guy like Matt House or Brendan Daly to head up his defense....
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