Patriots' defense last night

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by SithCeNtZ

What's baffling about this is we are generally a pretty creative offense. But we just kept running the same running plays over and over and over. It's not just that we weren't executing, but it's pretty easy to stop when you do the same thing every time. It made no sense why it took us 3 quarters to do something different and take the RB we drafted who is supposed to be good in space and, wait for it this is a crazy idea I can't believe it worked, put him in space instead of just pounding him up the middle. Not surprisingly the 2 best runs for CEH of the night were toss plays to the outside. Do that with mixing in some jet sweeps to keep defenses honest and that might help. Not "run up the middle every second down".

I also think it's obvious that unless they have to change it up the Chiefs are trying to win games showing the least amount of stuff on tape possible. This is about as vanilla as I can remember the Chiefs being on playcalling.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I also think it's obvious that unless they have to change it up the Chiefs are trying to win games showing the least amount of stuff on tape possible. This is about as vanilla as I can remember the Chiefs being on playcalling.

This is a team that should be able to run some pretty clever inside trap plays, but unless I missed it, I saw few/none of them last night. I wonder if Osemele's lack of lateral agility and/or Wylie maybe not being at 100% prevented it.

With DE's bracketing and a light box....man, an inside trap should be REALLY easy to break. Especially w/ the threat of the pass making the DL need to hesitate just a tick more which would allow the G/T combo to get to the 2nd level a little easier.

Just not real sure why we didn't see more of those. Maybe we did and I missed 'em.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

This is a team that should be able to run some pretty clever inside trap plays, but unless I missed it, I saw few/none of them last night. I wonder if Osemele's lack of lateral agility and/or Wylie maybe not being at 100% prevented it.

With DE's bracketing and a light box....man, an inside trap should be REALLY easy to break. Especially w/ the threat of the pass making the DL need to hesitate just a tick more which would allow the G/T combo to get to the 2nd level a little easier.

Just not real sure why we didn't see more of those. Maybe we did and I missed 'em.

We saw an inside run to the left on the 1st series, CEH's first carry was for 5 or 6 yards. I don't remember seeing many more after that though.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

We saw an inside run to the left on the 1st series, CEH's first carry was for 5 or 6 yards. I don't remember seeing many more after that though.

Yeah I think those traps will almost have to be to the left because I don't think Osemele can pull over to the right side. So they'll need him to do that power block at the 2nd level while Wylie gets that pull in and takes out the 5-tech.

Pretty sure you can't flip those roles and do it to the right very often. I wonder if the shotgun impacts the timing there. But you would think if you had CEH lining up to Mahomes right, he could still be right on time to hit that hole as Wylie opens it.

Eh, Reid's a lot smarter than me so I suspect there's some reason for it that I wasn't seeing. It just seems like it can/should be a more common tool in our arsenal, especially on inside hand-offs.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

This is a team that should be able to run some pretty clever inside trap plays, but unless I missed it, I saw few/none of them last night. I wonder if Osemele's lack of lateral agility and/or Wylie maybe not being at 100% prevented it.

With DE's bracketing and a light box....man, an inside trap should be REALLY easy to break. Especially w/ the threat of the pass making the DL need to hesitate just a tick more which would allow the G/T combo to get to the 2nd level a little easier.

Just not real sure why we didn't see more of those. Maybe we did and I missed 'em.

Wylie and Osemele BOTH struggled run blocking last night due to the Pats' quickness. Fish struggled blocking Winovich throughout. The Pats were outstanding up front.

If the Chiefs are going to pull, they might choose Reiter honestly.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Wylie and Osemele BOTH struggled run blocking last night due to the Pats' quickness. Fish struggled blocking Winovich throughout. The Pats were outstanding up front.

If the Chiefs are going to pull, they might choose Reiter honestly.

It's so hard to pull with a C though because the downshot is pretty catastrophic.

A NT's job is just rarely all that complicated - impact the C at the snap. There's not much read/react. The reason a trap works is that there's a little misdirection from the G that gets the 5T to delay juuuuust long enough for him to get blindsided by the pulling G.

The NT just doesn't do that really. And the C has the added responsibility of ensuring a quality snap and moving slowly enough out of his stance to ensure that he doesn't step on the QB. You throw a pull in there and there's a LOT that can go wrong.

I don't think I'd have a pulling C in my playbook at all. Maybe in a short of shotgun or speed option play, but never on an interior run play. I just can't see a way it doesn't fall apart almost immediately.