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Old 10-06-2020, 09:36 AM  
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Patriots' defense last night
Romo touched on this, but they had an interesting approach that looked like it gave Mahomes a bit of trouble at times.

They only had 3 DL, and their 2 DE's rushed up the field and held the sides of the pocket, creating a "box" around Mahomes to prevent him from rolling/escaping/doing his magic tricks. They then kept everyone else in coverage in his line of sight to limit his windows and throwing lanes.

The plus was he had lots of time in the pocket, the minus was he had no where to go to help his WR's get open via scrambling, reducing his throwing lanes/windows.

Thankfully our WR corps is very fast and can get open, but again, with reduced windows, it made it harder on Mahomes.

I would not be surprised if we saw this set up again this season a few times.
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Old 10-06-2020, 12:34 PM   #76
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This is a team that should be able to run some pretty clever inside trap plays, but unless I missed it, I saw few/none of them last night. I wonder if Osemele's lack of lateral agility and/or Wylie maybe not being at 100% prevented it.

With DE's bracketing and a light box....man, an inside trap should be REALLY easy to break. Especially w/ the threat of the pass making the DL need to hesitate just a tick more which would allow the G/T combo to get to the 2nd level a little easier.

Just not real sure why we didn't see more of those. Maybe we did and I missed 'em.
Wylie and Osemele BOTH struggled run blocking last night due to the Pats' quickness. Fish struggled blocking Winovich throughout. The Pats were outstanding up front.

If the Chiefs are going to pull, they might choose Reiter honestly.
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Old 10-06-2020, 12:40 PM   #77
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And they still stopped the run with their stunts and speed up front. It was really impressive. Sure, the line could block better, but those stunts were lethal and their players didn't miss.

You want to know why the Chiefs are the first team in NFL history to start FOUR consecutive seasons with a 4-0 start? It's really ****ing hard to win in the NFL. Period. I'll take a 16-point win over the Patriots any day, even if it wasn't pretty enough for Chief Fan.
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Old 10-06-2020, 12:41 PM   #78
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It's true. The run is open right up the middle. I know people were whining about it, but if CEH makes about 3 better reads last night, he's over 100 rushing. The line has to block the stunts better (and deal with speed better), but we're fine here.
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Old 10-06-2020, 12:44 PM   #79
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Have to get Mahomes under center and beat them with the running game when they do that.
Our running game between the tackles was AWFUL. Let's not go back to that strategy. Jet sweeps, options, screens passes please.
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You almost need to have a spy on Mahomes. Him picking up first downs with his legs is something defenses have to account for at this point.
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Our running game between the tackles was AWFUL. Let's not go back to that strategy. Jet sweeps, options, screens passes please.
Outside zone stretch runs, bud.
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Our running game between the tackles was AWFUL. Let's not go back to that strategy. Jet sweeps, options, screens passes please.
It's not that easy to run to the edge on 7 or 8 DB's if they're expecting it.

You HAVE to run up the middle to keep them off balance.
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Wylie and Osemele BOTH struggled run blocking last night due to the Pats' quickness. Fish struggled blocking Winovich throughout. The Pats were outstanding up front.

If the Chiefs are going to pull, they might choose Reiter honestly.
It's so hard to pull with a C though because the downshot is pretty catastrophic.

A NT's job is just rarely all that complicated - impact the C at the snap. There's not much read/react. The reason a trap works is that there's a little misdirection from the G that gets the 5T to delay juuuuust long enough for him to get blindsided by the pulling G.

The NT just doesn't do that really. And the C has the added responsibility of ensuring a quality snap and moving slowly enough out of his stance to ensure that he doesn't step on the QB. You throw a pull in there and there's a LOT that can go wrong.

I don't think I'd have a pulling C in my playbook at all. Maybe in a short of shotgun or speed option play, but never on an interior run play. I just can't see a way it doesn't fall apart almost immediately.
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Outside zone stretch runs, bud.
Spoken like someone who has feasted on those plays in Madden
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Yes to this. They showed a play, at halftime I think, where the Pats had six in the box and CEH got stuffed for no gain. That can't happen routinely.
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The defense was setup for up the middle draw plays to be successful. They weren't though, because the interior oline sucks at run blocking. That's why they tried to run up the butt 500 times. The outside runs should not have worked so well, but did because our tackles are decent. Andy should have said "**** the percentages " earlier and stopped wasting plays running inside. He is stubborn, and it almost cost them. Play to our strengths, and **** the percentage plays.
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Have to get Mahomes under center and beat them with the running game when they do that.
I know this will be an unpopular opinion, but there were quite a few times that CEH just ran directly into a group of offensive linemen and defenders. I mean, like he was trying to hit a target.

His strength is supposed to be quick cuts, lateral cuts, and fast decision making when it comes to deciding which lane to run through, but last night he barely did that at all, and ran directly into the pile.

It was frustrating to watch.

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I know this will be an unpopular opinion, but there were quite a few times that CEH just ran directly into a group of offensive linemen and defenders. I mean, like he was trying to hit a target.

His strength is supposed to be quick cuts, lateral cuts, and fast decision making when it comes to deciding which lane to run through, but last night he barely did that at all, and ran directly into the pile.

It was frustrating to watch.

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