***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by petegz28

During my down time I was reading on things to eat that might help fight or prevent Covid and one thing I came across that was interesting was coconut oil. There are studies coming out of the Philippines that are showing the lauric acid in the oil is helping to prevent getting or prevent progression of cases. There was one study that said they used it some of the jails to keep the spread down and they had great success with it.

Interesting stuff.....

Coconut oil is one of those special substances that is growing in popularity lately. It fell out of favor in the "fat is bad" era but people are rediscovering some of its better properties.

It has dozens of therapeutic uses.

[sedated]

Massachusetts is doing an "overnight" stay-at-home order, residents should stay home between 10pm to 5am. Restaurants open for dine-in but must close at 9:30pm. Am I the only one that doesn't see any point in that?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Katipan

It's really not the currency that dick sucking is.

If you can't fry it, I don't eat it.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by sedated

Massachusetts is doing an "overnight" stay-at-home order, residents should stay home between 10pm to 5am. Restaurants open for dine-in but must close at 9:30pm. Am I the only one that doesn't see any point in that?

Covid is most active between 10pm - 5am????

[RedRaider56]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Covid is most active between 10pm - 5am????

Only if you can't close the deal with the chick in the bar by 9:45 pm

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

During my down time I was reading on things to eat that might help fight or prevent Covid and one thing I came across that was interesting was coconut oil. There are studies coming out of the Philippines that are showing the lauric acid in the oil is helping to prevent getting or prevent progression of cases. There was one study that said they used it some of the jails to keep the spread down and they had great success with it.

Interesting stuff.....

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Coconut oil is one of those special substances that is growing in popularity lately. It fell out of favor in the "fat is bad" era but people are rediscovering some of its better properties.

It has dozens of therapeutic uses.

So you just eat it or?

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by TLO

So you just eat it or?

I need to make sure I'm back on the correct topic here before I answer. Although, perhaps the answer is simply yes in either case.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

So you just eat it or?

I usually eat it straight, about a tablespoon or so. My Wife likes it in her coffee. I haven't had it in a while but after I read this we started again. We cook with it too

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I usually eat it straight, about a tablespoon or so. My Wife likes it in her coffee. I haven't had it in a while but after I read this we started again. We cook with it too

Is it a prophylactic or treatment?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

Is it a prophylactic or treatment?

Both as I understand it. I have read articles that state it can prevent but also stop the progression of Covid by either reducing the time infected and\or preventing mild cases from becoming moderate or severe.

Lauric acid (C12) is a saturated fatty acid with a 12-carbon atom chain, comprising about 50 percent of coconut oil. Its derivative, monolaurin, is a metabolite produced by the human body in response to the ingestion of coconut oil. The paper published by ADMU explains the mechanisms of lauric acid and monolaurin as an antiviral agent through the following steps: (1) disintegration of the virus membrane, (2) inhibition of viral attempts to mature, and (3) prevention of viral proteins from binding to the host's cell membrane.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by petegz28

During my down time I was reading on things to eat that might help fight or prevent Covid and one thing I came across that was interesting was coconut oil. There are studies coming out of the Philippines that are showing the lauric acid in the oil is helping to prevent getting or prevent progression of cases. There was one study that said they used it some of the jails to keep the spread down and they had great success with it.

Interesting stuff.....

That is interesting. Ive been consistently taking my zinc and Vitamin D......

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by jdubya

That is interesting. Ive been consistently taking my zinc and Vitamin D......

Once I got my results I upped the zinc (which I take everyday) and D3 as well as C.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Once I got my results I upped the zinc (which I take everyday) and D3 as well as C.

I've upped my d3 intake. I take a reasonable amount of zinc every day. Maybe I'll throw in some coconut oil?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

I've upped my d3 intake. I take a reasonable amount of zinc every day. Maybe I'll throw in some coconut oil?

Had I known then what I know now I would have been scarfing the coconut oil. I guess some more formal results will be out this month. The argument they make seems to make sense but I guess the whole riddle of it all is "how much do you need to be effective?". That's the trick but it can't hurt. Other foods as and FYI that I read about were of course everyone's favorite, broccoli then there was berries, ginger, pumpkin seeds, reishi mushrooms and garlic.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Had I known then what I know now I would have been scarfing the coconut oil. I guess some more formal results will be out this month. The argument they make seems to make sense but I guess the whole riddle of it all is "how much do you need to be effective?". That's the trick but it can't hurt. Other foods as and FYI that I read about were of course everyone's favorite, broccoli then there was berries, ginger, pumpkin seeds, reishi mushrooms and garlic.

Isn’t coconut oil high in saturated fats “bad” fat and can raise your ldl.

And wouldn’t high cholesterol make you more at risk to covid?