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Old 11-15-2020, 06:30 PM  
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Chubb (CLE) going out of bounds up 10-7?
I slept through it, but what's up with that? They don't want to blow out Houston by 10? WTF?
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Old 11-16-2020, 08:51 AM   #31
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I had a four team parlay that didn’t hit because Chubb did that and kingsburry kneeled a pat

I hate them so much
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Old 11-16-2020, 08:56 AM   #32
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I don't agree with it. Never have, never will. You always score when you have a chance. Teams with the mentality to do what Chubb did are teams that never win anything important. It's playing not to lose rather than playing to win.
We've seen many instances where a team scores too quick and the other team has a miraculous comeback. Rivers fumble is the only time I can remember a team messing up in victory formation. I get it if there's any chance the other team can get the ball back. But victory formation has to be one of the highest % plays in all of sports.
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Old 11-16-2020, 08:58 AM   #33
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We've seen many instances where a team scores too quick and the other team has a miraculous comeback. Rivers fumble is the only time I can remember a team messing up in victory formation. I get it if there's any chance the other team can get the ball back. But victory formation has to be one of the highest % plays in all of sports.
Chubb went OOB with 1:07 left.

If the Texans can score 11 points in 1 minute to win the game, the Browns deserved to lose.

Take the points every ****ing time.
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Old 11-16-2020, 09:01 AM   #34
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We've seen many instances where a team scores too quick and the other team has a miraculous comeback. Rivers fumble is the only time I can remember a team messing up in victory formation. I get it if there's any chance the other team can get the ball back. But victory formation has to be one of the highest % plays in all of sports.
This isn't the same thing as Herm Edwards returning it for a TD giving the Eagles the victory. Chubb was way out ahead, all by himself, and he went out of bounds.
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Old 11-16-2020, 09:59 AM   #35
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I'm confused. Their chances of winning the game were 100% since he went out of bounds. Scoring would have made the chances less than 100%. But people still want him to score?

I guess I'm glad you guys aren't NFL coaches.
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Old 11-16-2020, 10:08 AM   #36
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I'm confused. Their chances of winning the game were 100% since he went out of bounds. Scoring would have made the chances less than 100%. But people still want him to score?

I guess I'm glad you guys aren't NFL coaches.
Not necessarily. Wasn't that GIF of Rivers saying worst ****ing day ever after he fumbled a victory formation? And if it's going to happen to somebody, wouldn't it happen to the Browns?

I'd put them at roughly even odds to fumble the football as Houston scoring 10 points in <:60 with (IIRC) no timeouts.
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Not necessarily. Wasn't that GIF of Rivers saying worst ****ing day ever after he fumbled a victory formation? And if it's going to happen to somebody, wouldn't it happen to the Browns?

I'd put them at roughly even odds to fumble the football as Houston scoring 10 points in <:60 with (IIRC) no timeouts.
I suppose agree to disagree. I can't think of any other game in NFL history other than the one you're referring to where a team has lost on a botched kneel down. I think of a handful of games where a team has scored twice in the final minute to win it.
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I'm confused. Their chances of winning the game were 100% since he went out of bounds. Scoring would have made the chances less than 100%. But people still want him to score?

I guess I'm glad you guys aren't NFL coaches.
What exactly are the chances that Houston scored 11 points in somewhere around 1 minute?

Statistically possible isn't the same as probable.
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What exactly are the chances that Houston scored 11 points in somewhere around 1 minute?

Statistically possible isn't the same as probable.
I didn't say it was probable. I just would prefer my coach make decisions based on maximizing win probability, and I'll take 99.99% over 99.90%.
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I didn't say it was probable. I just would prefer my coach make decisions based on maximizing win probability.
What about the fact that points are a playoff tiebreaker?
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I didn't say it was probable. I just would prefer my coach make decisions based on maximizing win probability, and I'll take 99.99% over 99.90%.
Not to mention not putting the defense out there for plays that should have been unnecessary.
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What about the fact that points are a playoff tiebreaker?
Yep and Cleveland is likely to be involved at the end of the season.
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What about the fact that points are a playoff tiebreaker?
Well ****, what's Andy doing pulling Mahomes in the 4th quarter???
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Yep and Cleveland is likely to be involved at the end of the season.
I wonder how often that tiebreaker has been used. It's SEVENTH on the list, so it seems...bizarre...to think about that as part of your strategy. Otherwise, we'd see teams running up the score all the time.
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