***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

With this much infection spreading I’m not sure what other options there are. If you wait til hospitals break down to start doing anything we’ll have bigger issues

[O.city]

We hit 70k hospitalizations Nation wide today. We can’t keep this out of nursing homes and such anymore.

We’re in trouble and I’m not sure what the fix is other than vaccines

[Dayze]

We’ve stocked up on TP the last few months and have slowly stocked up on some food /storage in case some ****ing reeruned 30 day lock down happens. Need another week or so worth of food, but I’ve been preparing for the worst.

At the beginning of this I was shocked when I went to the store after like literally less than a week of all this COVID shit. There was NOTHing on the shelves at my store.
It was creepy. Back in March or whatever.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by O.city

We hit 70k hospitalizations Nation wide today. We can’t keep this out of nursing homes and such anymore.

We’re in trouble and I’m not sure what the fix is other than vaccines

We'll be fine...jeez

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

We hit 70k hospitalizations Nation wide today. We can’t keep this out of nursing homes and such anymore.

We’re in trouble and I’m not sure what the fix is other than vaccines

We'll be fine.

[O.city]

We’re having the highest spike of infections and hospitalizations we’ve had to date and are rolling into holiday season.

It’s gonna get bad.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

We'll be fine...jeez

Originally Posted by petegz28

We'll be fine.

Like humanity? Sure.

I’ve had 4 confirmed Covid deaths in my family and we just had another family member hospitalized today so some people won’t be fine.

Guess that empathy only counts for businesses though

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

Like humanity? Sure.

I’ve had 4 confirmed Covid deaths in my family and we just had another family member hospitalized today so some people won’t be fine.

Guess that empathy only counts for businesses though

I don't think that's a very fair statement.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I don't think that's a very fair statement.

Nope

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Nope

I'm not trying to be insensitive to anyone's specific situation. Nothing about this ordeal is easy or simple.

[O.city]

Why?

You guys are worried about people’s livelihoods but not others lives?

It sucks all around. If businesses are forced to close they should be compensated. I don’t think they should be forced to close but there is obviously a reason.

The people asking them or forcing them have made wrong decisions and acted in bad faith all along the way. They’ve shot their credibility and now when shit is really hitting the fan, people are done with it.

But there’s no double talk by having any empathy for people who have lost loved ones or are sick and not doing well themselves while also realizing that financially bankrupting people is wrong as well

[O.city]

We’re just in a spot were basically, it’s tough it out and get thru and hope shit doesn’t go off the rails.

Politicians played games and did things based on politics and people are gonna pay the ultimate price now. Basically just have to leave it up to individuals at this point and hope vaccines get here quick enough

[O.city]

https://twitter.com/neoavatara/statu...079478784?s=21

MAsk study

N95s work well it seems

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

Why?

You guys are worried about people’s livelihoods but not others lives?

It sucks all around. If businesses are forced to close they should be compensated. I don’t think they should be forced to close but there is obviously a reason.

The people asking them or forcing them have made wrong decisions and acted in bad faith all along the way. They’ve shot their credibility and now when shit is really hitting the fan, people are done with it.

But there’s no double talk by having any empathy for people who have lost loved ones or are sick and not doing well themselves while also realizing that financially bankrupting people is wrong as well

I don't understand why you think there is no empathy for people losing loved ones? No one wishes that upon anyone and it sucks every time it happens. You were painting a bleak pictures and I think Pasta and I were saying we will get through this some how. That doesn't mean it will be easy or that the lives of others are discounted.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

We’re just in a spot were basically, it’s tough it out and get thru and hope shit doesn’t go off the rails.

Politicians played games and did things based on politics and people are gonna pay the ultimate price now. Basically just have to leave it up to individuals at this point and hope vaccines get here quick enough

Politics are already being played with the vaccine and we don't even have it yet.