***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaFace

New CDC study confirms what we've already known. Everyone can now commence spinning this to fit your own preconceived opinions.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6947e2.htm

Considering JoCo has had a mask mandate since July and we are one of the hottest spots in Ks I am calling BS. Our cases are up significantly.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by Hawker007

Okay, try and explain the asterisks around the dates on that graphic. You could literally interpret them multiple ways. It’s an awful graphic trying to fool the public into wearing masks based on scare tactics. And I’m a person who wants everyone to wear masks. But again, it’s BS like this that the public continues to lose faith in the “experts” and want to fight the “state”.

They're pretty much self explanatory. It makes perfect sense to me. Counties with a mask mandate showed a decrease in cases while those without a mandate showed an increase. It's not rocket science.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by stumppy

You might want to take a look at the dates.

Yeah that was about the time the State got caught using misleading data to cover the fact the counties that did not adopt the policy were doing the same as those that did. But whatever.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by stumppy

They're pretty much self explanatory. It makes perfect sense to me. Counties with a mask mandate showed a decrease in cases while those without a mandate showed an increase. It's not rocket science.

he secretary for the Kansas Department of Health and Education is in hot water for deceiving public officials in the state to get a statewide mask mandate instituted.

Secretary Lee Norman contrasted the disparity in coronavirus cases between counties in Kansas with mask mandates using an axis showing new cases within a range of 15-25 in counties with mask mandates and an axis with a range of 4-14 in counties without. That display was designed to appear that counties without mandates had more cases than counties with them.

If both data sets were placed on the same axis, the counties without mask mandates had fewer coronavirus cases than those with mandates.

https://www.newsmax.com/us/kansas-ma.../08/id/981252/

[stumppy]

Nice link pete. Of course the date of that article is before the last date on the study that was posted.

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by TLO

In an attempt to steer the conversation in another direction...

My company has all of us back in the office as of this week. We're all required to wear masks, etc.

I share a rather large office with one other co-worker.

Any precautions we can take to help mitigate the possible spread? We have a giant window, but it doesn't open. I have a fan running in an attempt to keep air moving around. Any other ideas?

Make sure your office has Merv 12 furnace filters installed and make sure the fans are set to run frequently. Get a humidifier and keep the humidity around 50%.

[Hawker007]

Originally Posted by stumppy

They're pretty much self explanatory. It makes perfect sense to me. Counties with a mask mandate showed a decrease in cases while those without a mandate showed an increase. It's not rocket science.

And I’m willing to bet that is 100% absolutely ****ing false. Every ****ing corner of the state has seen an increase n cases since July 3rd.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Pants

Is the hospital refuting her statements as lies?

I've seen a half dozen more nurses saying the same thing. A lot of video testimonials.

It's funny because we literally have posters on here saying the virus is a hoax. But then the same posters turn around and say a nurse talking about patients who think the virus is a hoax - is also a hoax.

Logic is hard.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by crispystl

We moved 800 miles away from our families about 12 years ago. Ever since then every Christmas and Thanksgiving has been just me, my wife, and my son at our home with no one else. It’s beautiful. Especially since as a kid I got dragged to every damn one of my stepdads family get togethers against my will.


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Originally Posted by petegz28

https://www.newsmax.com/us/kansas-ma.../08/id/981252/

Originally Posted by stumppy

Nice link pete. Of course the date of that article is before the last date on the study that was posted.

newsmax? That’s about as non-partisan as a Rachel Meadow blog.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I've seen a half dozen more nurses saying the same thing. A lot of video testimonials.

It's funny because we literally have posters on here saying the virus is a hoax. But then the same posters turn around and say a nurse talking about patients who think the virus is a hoax - is also a hoax.

Logic is hard.

There are literally millions of Americans who think it’s a hoax. Why wouldn’t you run into one going about your lives?

[neech]

I think it’s a joke when the stores require everyone to wear masks, yet most everyone is using their fingers to use their debit or credit cards on the card reader which rarely that I see gets cleaned.

Oh BTW, people are wearing masks and the Covid cases are going up. So stupid

[WhawhaWhat]

Toronto, Canada's biggest city, is going into lockdown for at least 28 days to limit the spread of Covid-19 https://t.co/Klt9KqGp6o

— CNN Breaking News (@cnnbrk) November 21, 2020

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

There are literally millions of Americans who think it’s a hoax. Why wouldn’t you run into one going about your lives?

Or in the covid ICU.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by neech

I think it’s a joke when the stores require everyone to wear masks, yet most everyone is using their fingers to use their debit or credit cards on the card reader which rarely that I see gets cleaned.

Oh BTW, people are wearing masks and the Covid cases are going up. So stupid

You can always wash your hands or use hand sanitizer. It's not like you catch it from it touching your hands. You have to touch your face.

[neech]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

You can always wash your hands or use hand sanitizer. It's not like you catch it from it touching your hands. You have to touch your face.

So does everyone do that? I seriously doubt it, plus the first thing you do is grab your keys out of your pocket when you open you car to leave then grab the you use the hand sanitizer, your keys have the germs on it still.