***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I know this is like my 4th or 5th pandemic that wiped out a million people in record time and shut down all the countries. How about you?

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Also, Uncle Joe will ask for a 100-day-long prayer to the Sun God Ra for a good harvest!

If current infection trends continue, by April we should be at herd immunity even without a vaccine. Expect public health roosters to take full credit for the dawn.https://t.co/KDcYpz0uFZ

— Alex Berenson (@AlexBerenson) December 4, 2020

**** yourself Joe

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I know this is like my 4th or 5th pandemic that wiped out a million people in record time and shut down all the countries. How about you?

Poverty wipes out millions globally every year. Where's the outcry?

I mean, it seems to me the difference here is that regular people like here can't "catch" poverty but they absolutely can catch COVID.

It's personal. The altruism is pretty fake. Not saying you specifically but I'd be willing to be there's several right here in this thread.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

**** yourself Joe

Yeah, once I get that vaccine, I'm not wearing a mask. LOL

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

false choice. You gave money and your time to help the homeless. What’s a matter with you? You don’t care about kids with cancer?

2,403 died in Pearl Harbor:
"A day that will live in infamy."

2,977 died on September 11th:
"Never forget."

2,885 Americans died yesterday from COVID

Guess I missed whatever day it was in school about that time in history a novel virus was wantonly released unto the world as a deliberate act in order to achieve a goal.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I know this is like my 4th or 5th pandemic that wiped out a million people in record time and shut down all the countries. How about you?

Your really old.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I don't see people here filling up threads with literally 1000's of posts about kids with cancer.

So yeah, it is a false choice.

There are DEFINITELY people here in this thread that care way more about COVID than any other human tragedy, as evidenced by their participation.

The tragedy with COVID is that the country could have both had fewer deaths and less economic damage if people had collectively behaved in a manner that reduced the spread and if the powers that be had done things differently.

There is nothing comparable that can be done to prevent kids from getting cancer.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Your really old.

Because he took proper precautions in all of those pandemics.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

The tragedy with COVID is that the country could have both had fewer deaths and less economic damage if people had collectively behaved in a manner that reduced the spread and if the powers that be had done things differently.

Can you elaborate?

[Loneiguana]

A friend of my wife is in the hospital for at least 5 days needing blood thinners. Late 30s


Dry heaving, unable to keep anything down, and the blood is clotting.

Apperently, we are starting to see young adults die from covid because of blood clots and they are starting blood thinners as a regular treatment.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Loneiguana

A friend of my wife is in the hospital for at least 5 days needing blood thinners. Late 30s


Dry heaving, unable to keep anything down, and the blood is clotting.

Apperently, we are starting to see young adults die from covid because of blood clots and they are starting blood thinners as a regular treatment.

Coagulopathies have been an unfortunate issue for many seriously ill COVID patients, and microvascular thrombosis has been indicated as a precipitating factor for respiratory failure among patients that die. All admitted patients should at the very least receive prophylactic doses of low molecular weight heparins (like enoxaparin) if they don't have a contraindication.

Those that demonstrate VTE/PE will need therapeutic doses and will likely be at increased risk of thrombosis for several weeks/months after discharge.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Guess I missed whatever day it was in school about that time in history a novel virus was wantonly released unto the world as a deliberate act in order to achieve a goal.

All I know is that once I am fully vaccinated I am going to a Chinese buffet and I am going to wantonly release some wontons into my gullet.

[Loneiguana]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Coagulopathies have been an unfortunate issue for many seriously ill COVID patients, and microvascular thrombosis has been indicated as a precipitating factor for respiratory failure among patients that die. All admitted patients should at the very least receive prophylactic doses of low molecular weight heparins (like enoxaparin) if they don't have a contraindication.

Those that demonstrate VTE/PE will need therapeutic doses and will likely be at increased risk of thrombosis for several weeks/months after discharge.

Thanks for explaining it using the right words I know my wife said but I am unable to remember or spell.

/she does disability determination so is more use than me to using the jargon

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

All I know is that once I am fully vaccinated I am going to a Chinese buffet and I am going to wantonly release some wontons into my gullet.

[BigBeauford]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Coagulopathies have been an unfortunate issue for many seriously ill COVID patients, and microvascular thrombosis has been indicated as a precipitating factor for respiratory failure among patients that die. All admitted patients should at the very least receive prophylactic doses of low molecular weight heparins (like enoxaparin) if they don't have a contraindication.

Those that demonstrate VTE/PE will need therapeutic doses and will likely be at increased risk of thrombosis for several weeks/months after discharge.

What a horrifying thought that is, to be under 40 and receiving heparin because of this ****ed up virus.