***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by petegz28

That's what I had

Looks like symptoms from the flu.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by stevieray

Looks like symptoms from the flu.

Except the taste and smell part....

[petegz28]

It's gotta be 2020 when you know strip clubs are the reason your restaurant can stay open...

Calif. judge rules San Diego County restaurants can reopen; says strip club ruling also protects eateries

A California judge ruled that all San Diego County restaurants can reopen for on-site dining, falling in line with an earlier ruling that strip clubs could remain open despite Gov. Gavin Newsom’s novel coronavirus-related health order that calls for such establishments to close up shop.

Thursday’s San Diego County ruling was a setback to Newsom’s stay-at-home order, which officials said was issued in an effort to slow the spread of the coronavirus before the state's intensive care units run out of beds.

The Democratic governor’s office immediately appealed, bringing uncertainty to restaurant owners weighing whether to buy food and schedule staff a week before Christmas amid the possibility that their victory could soon be reversed.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

People that take care of themselves

My cousin is fighting for his life right now. He got asthma from years as a firefighter. He's in his mid-40s.

But **** him for not taking care of himself, am I right?

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by stevieray

Looks like symptoms from the flu.

Do you not realize what a dick move it is to keep bringing this weak shit up like this in a thread where people have family members who have died from this?

Did you also make a habit of going in to children's hospitals and telling their parents that their kids were too weak and just needed to get over it?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

That's what I had

I'm glad that, in your case, those symptoms didn't become severe and lead to ARDS or one of the other conditions caused by COVID-19 that kill:

What happens to people who get COVID-19?

Among those who develop symptoms, most (about 80%) recover from the disease without needing hospital treatment. About 15% become seriously ill and require oxygen and 5% become critically ill and need intensive care.

Complications leading to death may include respiratory failure, acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), sepsis and septic shock, thromboembolism, and/or multiorgan failure, including injury of the heart, liver or kidneys.

In rare situations, children can develop a severe inflammatory syndrome a few weeks after infection.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

People that take care of themselves

Victim blaming at its finest.

F those fatties, they deserve to die

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by DaFace

My cousin is fighting for his life right now. He got asthma from years as a firefighter. He's in his mid-40s.

But **** him for not taking care of himself, am I right?

This post has nothing to do with mine. I was responding to his question.



"Who doesn't have underlying health issues except people under 30".

Being over 30 is no excuse for being in shitty shape although I understand on a few occasions it is beyond someone's control.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

This post has nothing to do with mine. I was responding to his question.



"Who doesn't have underlying health issues except people under 30"

My cousin is one of the fittest guys I know. Implying that people who take care of themselves don't have underlying health conditions is asinine.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by O.city

Passed out due to getting a shot.

Happens all the time. Ask me how I know.

I can only imagine.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by DaFace

My cousin is one of the fittest guys I know. Implying that people who take care of themselves don't have underlying health conditions is asinine.

Generally it's related to poor choices but yeah.."I know a guy" outliers do happen.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Do you not realize what a dick move it is to keep bringing this weak shit up like this in a thread where people have family members who have died from this?

Did you also make a habit of going in to children's hospitals and telling their parents that their kids were too weak and just needed to get over it?

That's your opinion.

I realize people are dying everyday, from a myriad of things. Are they any less tragic?

I've lost three friends and one relative to cancer this year. Couldn't pay respects to any of them. They're just gone.

This has nothing to do with telling people to get over it(), just recognizing there are other mitigating factors that come into play. It's not cut and dried.

If you've got a problem with that, it's on you. We don't get to decide for each other on such a complex issue.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Donger

I'm glad that, in your case, those symptoms didn't become severe and lead to ARDS or one of the other conditions caused by COVID-19 that kill:

What happens to people who get COVID-19?

Among those who develop symptoms, most (about 80%) recover from the disease without needing hospital treatment. About 15% become seriously ill and require oxygen and 5% become critically ill and need intensive care.

Complications leading to death may include respiratory failure, acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), sepsis and septic shock, thromboembolism, and/or multiorgan failure, including injury of the heart, liver or kidneys.

In rare situations, children can develop a severe inflammatory syndrome a few weeks after infection.

You are a pathetic fear mongerer

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Generally it's related to poor choices but yeah.."I know a guy" outlier do happen.

Had a cousin, in excellent shape, who died of a heart attack on a treadmill at Gold's gym.

He was 40.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

You are a pathetic fear mongerer

Those are just facts. Unfortunate facts, but still facts.

What you choose to do about them, or not, is entirely up to you.