***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Donger]

CDC has updated their vaccination page to show lots of good data, including individual state progress:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations


Total Doses Distributed

12,409,050

Total Number of People Initiating Vaccination (1st Dose Received)

2,794,588

CDC | Updated: Dec 30 2020 As of 9:00am ET

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Donger

CDC has updated their vaccination page to show lots of good data, including individual state progress:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations


Total Doses Distributed

12,409,050

Total Number of People Initiating Vaccination (1st Dose Received)

2,794,588

CDC | Updated: Dec 30 2020 As of 9:00am ET

This may be the only map ever created that shows West Virginia and South Dakota as the top two states in the union. But it shows Mississippi at or near the bottom, so it must be accurate.

[ChiliConCarnage]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

This may be the only map ever created that shows West Virginia and South Dakota as the top two states in the union. But it shows Mississippi at or near the bottom, so it must be accurate.

West Virginia maybe cheating a bit.

Dozens of people in West Virginia were mistakenly given Regeneron’s Covid-19 antibody treatment instead of the Moderna vaccine, the West Virginia National Guard announced Thursday.

[RunKC]

So Novavax is looking for volunteers for the beginning final stage of their vaccine. AstraZeneca is approved in UK.

We’re getting great progress here and should have a ton of doses coming. I think can get 258 milllion people vaccinated sometime this summer.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage

West Virginia maybe cheating a bit.

Okay, that makes a lot more sense.

[mr. tegu]

I hope people realize that herd immunity and 80-90% of the population vaccinated should not be the goal for return to normal. This things isn’t going away any time soon. Millions of people under 18 and many more adults will still be getting this thing regardless of how many adults are vaccinated. Sure it will be less numbers and less prevalent but it’s clear to me that many people are mistakenly expecting it to just sort of end. So any time I see something like we need to be doing x amount of vaccinations to have administered x amount by a certain date it’s just sort of noise and settling an unachievable goal. Once vaccine availability is there for the whole population, that’s really all that matters.

Regarding vaccines administered based on what’s been sent, it seems we are being a bit impatient. Reality is that people in the front of the line have to be given time to get it which takes time. My wife’s hospital still has numerous employees in the first group that haven’t gotten it due to combinations of thing like being on vacation, deciding to get it or not, or simply fitting it into schedules. Then there also has to be some sort of grace period for when a bunch of denied vaccine candidates have theirs given to someone in the next group. How long does the first group get access before they are passed over? That question probably doesn’t have an answer. You can’t just say everyone in the first group has two weeks and then that’s it we give theirs to the next group. That can’t occur until there is a surplus of vaccines.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

My wife’s hospital still has numerous employees in the first group that haven’t gotten it due to combinations of thing like being on vacation, deciding to get it or not, or simply fitting it into schedules. Then there also has to be some sort of grace period for when a bunch of denied vaccine candidates have theirs given to someone in the next group. How long does the first group get access before they are passed over? That question probably doesn’t have an answer. You can’t just say everyone in the first group has two weeks and then that’s it we give theirs to the next group. That can’t occur until there is a surplus of vaccines.

seems like we have a surplus of vaccines right now. 11 million of them sitting somewhere gathering dust.

I read a NY Times piece in 1947 when the small pox vaccine came out. They had volunteers giving out the shot. They showed regular citizens with no training how to give the vaccine shot. They got 6 million people vaccinated in one month in NY city alone. In 1947. We can do better.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

seems like we have a surplus of vaccines right now. 11 million of them sitting somewhere gathering dust.

I read a NY Times piece in 1947 when the small pox vaccine came out. They had volunteers giving out the shot. They showed regular citizens with no training how to give the vaccine shot. They got 6 million people vaccinated in one month in NY city alone. In 1947. We can do better.

Just gathering dust not being offered to anyone or just sitting there with people trained to give them not doing so just isn’t going to be the case on any large scale.

[Chief Roundup]

Pneumonia shot two weeks ago, Flu shot today. On the list for the Covid shot.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Pneumonia shot two weeks ago.

Prevnar or Pneumovax?

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Prevnar or Pneumovax?

Prevnar is so 2019.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Prevnar or Pneumovax?

Pneumovax

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by SupDock

Prevnar is so 2019.

It really is . I guess reps are still pushing it pretty hard at retail pharmacies despite its apparent ineffectiveness for most populations.

[R Clark]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

I hope people realize that herd immunity and 80-90% of the population vaccinated should not be the goal for return to normal. This things isn’t going away any time soon. Millions of people under 18 and many more adults will still be getting this thing regardless of how many adults are vaccinated. Sure it will be less numbers and less prevalent but it’s clear to me that many people are mistakenly expecting it to just sort of end. So any time I see something like we need to be doing x amount of vaccinations to have administered x amount by a certain date it’s just sort of noise and settling an unachievable goal. Once vaccine availability is there for the whole population, that’s really all that matters.

Regarding vaccines administered based on what’s been sent, it seems we are being a bit impatient. Reality is that people in the front of the line have to be given time to get it which takes time. My wife’s hospital still has numerous employees in the first group that haven’t gotten it due to combinations of thing like being on vacation, deciding to get it or not, or simply fitting it into schedules. Then there also has to be some sort of grace period for when a bunch of denied vaccine candidates have theirs given to someone in the next group. How long does the first group get access before they are passed over? That question probably doesn’t have an answer. You can’t just say everyone in the first group has two weeks and then that’s it we give theirs to the next group. That can’t occur until there is a surplus of vaccines.

Not to sound like an asshole but that is some weak ass excuses

[petegz28]

Over Half Of Health Care Workers At California Hospitals Refuse Vaccinations
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/i...spitals-refuse